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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Monday, 28 May 2007
A Simpleton's Plan: Do it more than once and say you never did.
Mood:  a-ok
Now Playing: 'Breaking the Ice' Story of Washington double crossing the Delaware. (Political Intrigue)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Hey, check it out. Folks are using a service and nobody's the wiser... well, those using the service are much wiser, but then they actually read what they get. 

By: arthurarnsley
28 May 2007, 12:22 AM EDT
Msg. 186088 of 186093
(This msg. is a reply to 186077 by techlaw.)

techlaw - Yes I did register with PACER.

I can look at a lot of stuff and not pay anything. Some stuff I can copy to my word processor and save to a file or print from there. Yesterday all my looking was free and the documents I printed by PACER amounted to 72 cents. Some stuff does not allow me to copy and I have to use PACER print at 8 cents a page. Its almost nothing. Actually it is nothing for me; PACER bills once a month and if the amount is less than $10 they do not bill.

PACER site is set up so that attorneys or other interested parties can organize their work in PACER private file systems and create separate PACER files for each of their clients and cases. PACER will charge them for all that service but PACER states that they do not bill any charge unless a user's bill exceeds $10 for the month.

Actually, so far, there are only a few pages in PACER relating to the VCSY vs. MSFT lawsuit. There are 4 pages for the complaint and 9 pages for "EXHIBIT A" which shows detailed drawing sheets and the 53 patent claims, at least 25 of which VCSY alleges that Microsoft has infringed.

Microsoft was served 4-23-2007, answer due 3 weeks later on 5-14-2007. Microsoft has been granted an extension until 7-13-2007 to answer. VCSY concurred in the extension.

The rocket-docket or fast-track Marshall court really did get this lawsuit off to a flying start.

I may possibly have an error or two in the above post.

Arthur

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Hold; LT Rating- Hold)


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By: arthurarnsley
28 May 2007, 12:48 AM EDT
Msg. 186089 of 186098
(This msg. is a reply to 186078 by techlaw.)

techlaw

In Document 8-1 filed 5-7-2007, near the bottom of page 1, it says, "...the parties have met and conferred, and plaintiff does not oppose this request."

Apparently VCSY did agree to the extension. The extension was not granted by the Judge without consulting VCSY legal staff.

Otherwise your statement: “Primarily, I think the main area where the Marshall court effectively shortens the overall time of litigation is in the Discovery phase. This and the court's own quick turn-around time when deciding motions submitted by the parties probably accounts for the bulk of the time saved in any given case.” is very similar to what I have seen written by media sources regarding the Marshall fast-track court.

Best wishes

Arthur

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Hold; LT Rating- Hold)


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:39 AM EDT
Updated: Monday, 28 May 2007 3:42 AM EDT
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Friday, 25 May 2007
Guess who's not invited for dinner.
Mood:  hungry
Now Playing: 'How to Clean a Pullet One Feather at a Time' Instructional (Adult - D for DUMB)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Bobby Baker's Kook Book

CHICKEN

pluck pluck pluck

"There still is a ban on .NET code in core parts of Windows. They aren’t getting enough performance yet from .NET to include code written in it inside major parts of Windows. This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ and letting Microsoft’s developers write .NET code for Windows would unleash a bunch of innovation." - Robert Scoble.

Before every MVP jumps me in the alley yes, I know the .NET runtimes ship with Vista. But almost no Vista code was written in .NET (if any, actually). Microsoft tries to keep this secret because they know it gives a black eye to .NET. After all, if Microsoft is unwilling to use it to develop Windows or Office, why should the rest of us base our life on it?” - Robert Scoble

It also means that Ray Ozzie’s team probably doesn’t have anything dramatic to announce yet and they aren’t willing to have live within the bounds of a forcing function like the PDC (PDC forces teams to get their acts together and finish off stuff enough to at least get some good demos together).” - Robert Scoble

A Compact History of Chicken

Cleaning Instructions

Preparation (E-Z Bake):

So many fowls – so little time

How to clean your chicken.

Your bird should look like this:

Step 1: Pluck

Step 2: Serve

Step 1: Knock chicken in the head with little hammer.

Step 2: Use trash compacter and vacuum cleaner to remove feathers.

Step 3: Let chicken run around yard to blow remaining feathers off.

Results may vary. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:04 PM EDT
Updated: Saturday, 26 May 2007 4:13 AM EDT
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Thursday, 24 May 2007
Whatever you do tell them it's something else entirely.
Mood:  hungry
Now Playing: 'Finding It Funny' Detectives looking for clues sit on evidence. (Thriller / Cooking)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY
If you will look at the following few timeline indications, it's fairly easy to see why Microsoft squealed like a stuck pig about how unfair patents were and how everybody else should have to play by the same rules.

There are other indications but apparently one must understand a bit more than how to open a magazine to see: Timeline Vershtinken  

November 18, 2004 Ballmer accuses Linux of violating >258 patents

November 30, 2004 VCSY SiteFlash Patent granted

February 7, 2007 VCSY sends Microsoft cease and desist on  US 6,826,744
[patent granted November 30, 2004]

February 20, 2007 Ballmer repeats threats against Linux on patents

Fact: Mister Ballmer had an opportunity to know when the VCSY SiteFlash patent would be granted in November of 2004. Mister Ballmer had no way of knowing when he would receive the C&D on the SiteFlash patent in February of 2007. Thus, a little ahead, a little behind. Always the way things go when one has a combination of a little head and a little "but".

May 14th, 2007

Microsoft’s patent claim: Where’s the beef?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 11:01 am

Microsoft says free and open source software infringes on 235 of its patents. The real motive for Microsoft's patent volley may be the third version of the General Public License.

But following this patent back and forth (see Techmeme and Fortune article) is a lot like eating a condiment sandwich–it would be much better with some meat. How about some details. What exactly are these patents about? I can look at Ubuntu (see right) and say "hey this is Windows-ish." Is that a patent problem?

and say "hey this is Windows-ish." Is that a patent problem?

Meanwhile, I've read the official Microsoft line but am left with a few outstanding things that make me go hmm.

  • Did these execs speak out of turn–or was every last sentence planned?
  • What's the motive–there has to be more than the GPL?
  • Why bring up all this patent stuff now–especially since Microsoft has no motivation to sue–yet?

Without some real information on these patents that open source is trouncing it's a case of patent he said, she said. Like Adrian Kingsley-Hughes notes though, I'd be surprised if there weren't patent problems. This patent banter is leaving me hungry–much like a condiment sandwich.

Put some roast beef between them buns and it's so good it'll make you slap your granny.

Truth or bull? 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:33 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 24 May 2007 2:25 PM EDT
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Tuesday, 22 May 2007
IT's a good thing we're not suing EVERYBODY... just Microsoft
Mood:  cool
Now Playing: 'That Was the Last Time You're Going to Offer to Buy Me a Beer, Darling' (sing thru nose)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

 Ahhh, yes, Grasshopper with dirty mind. Power of Pickle. Very useful tool in moulding consequences... much like Rodin do thinker. Hammer and chisel. Hammer and chisel. Hammer strike chisel which in turn strike rock. Hammer make shape and chisel do work. Make very interesting form from anything not as hard as chisel. Hammer can be wood, bone, stone. But, chisel get bent if too soft. Get broken if too hard. Very bad place to be, chisel. Get beat at both ends and only cut into one... and do Master's work when doing that.

But, Master. How shall I know if I am the hammer or the chisel?

Ahhh, Grasshopper. Surprise you not think of rock. Have round figures in your head. Not good to be hammer. Swing up and down and hit head on chisel all day. Very good to be rock. Get shaped by Master's hand. Make Master proud.

Would Master like to play hide rock game again? Student feel lucky.

Ahhh, Grasshopper feel like he can kick old man's ass. Rock not here. Rock on shelf. Already hidden. Now, about Grasshopper mind...

click 

...Microsoft is in quite a pickle, Mister Diller. They want to but they can't. I mean, they can, but they don't want to. I mean, they are able just that they may not. Does THAT make it more clear?

You idiot. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about this dammit... 

click

...jealousy and envy are the sins that drive us off the deep end, friends. One will make you pee your pants. The other will make you pee somebody else's pants. Do you know what I mean, brethren? Can you hear what I'm ah talking about ah? I think you need a little bit of...

click

God. There's nothing on tv. Hmmm.... wonder what's in the mail?

Sue me first, Microsoft

From DTPWiki

Welcome to our "Sue me first, Microsoft" invitation page

Back to Main Page

Assessing the (non) threat

Microsoft's patent threat is another example of the truth of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's saying that the only thing to fear is fear itself. Here's why: First, Microsoft has succeeded as a company because they have mostly refined the innovations that other companies pioneered. So Microsoft has some major problems with "prior art" and "obviousness" defenses to its patent claims.

More at URL 

Open source or patent, Microsoft has to decide which side they will choose.

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:16 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 1:58 AM EDT
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Wednesday, 16 May 2007
No this is not the last song.
Mood:  caffeinated
Now Playing: 'Last Call' Stock broker finds out phone number to local bakery is number to winning lottery ticket. (Reality)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

You'll know it when you hear it.

Excuse me. I needed to kick the tin cans away from the door here so I could let you in. What can I say? I'm a lousy housekeeper and I have low pride of ownership on material things. It's free here on tripody. Free bandwidth free storage. Maybe if I paid for it I would be more careful where I put the tv trays and the recycle bins.

As it is, I hope to never become a professional at this. I do it for free so the cost of all this information (as tacky and as ill-kept as it may appear to those who make a business of this kind of thing) comes to you for nada damn thing.

Others are more respectful of money, though. They criticize me (and you by inference) for not paying more attention to things like money and time so those must rank up amongst their highest principles not to waste.

Yet, they rant the livelong day about what a waste it is to put your money in VCSY stock while "so many other stocks are doing great". I suppose ALL VCSY shareholders are dumped by their insinuations in that slop bucket.

As those posters say they value time as much as money more than I or more than the average VCSY shareholder, the only reasonable conclusion I can come up with why they do this sort of thing every day is they get paid. 

Me? I benefit greatly from posting as I am expressing opinions backed by facts on my investment. Besides getting to freely voice my opinions about something I care about passionately, I get to practice my typing and my posture. I get to think inside out of the box. I get to eat Cheerios all day and watch Oprah and think "What a good lad am I!" I get to tell fascinating people to stuff their high-minded righteousness up their tubular floutations and come to at least something more than an ad hoc basis as regards their intellectual honesty.

I also get to sit backwards on the ride so I can see more clearly where we are going because the ride behind has put us on that trajectory. It's what all inertial guidance does and wow do I have inertia

 

The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350

Comment In the beginning there was Microsoft. Then it exploded

By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 28 December 2003, 11:31

excerpted

EVERY SO often, there is a big shift in an industry. The shifts are not usually visible until long after they've happened, making you look back and say: "Oh yeah, things were different back then"....

...The fact remains that Microsoft's entire infrastructure is based on fundamentally flawed designs, not buggy code. These designs can't be changed.

To change them, Microsoft would have to dump all existing APIs and break compatibility with everything up till now. If Microsoft does do this, it will have the opportunity to fix the designs that plague its product lineup.

I doubt it will. Even .Net, the new secure infrastructure, and built with security in mind, lets you have access to the 'old ways'. Yes, you are not supposed to, but people somehow do, and hackers will. Microsoft and its customer are addicted to backwards compatibility in a way that makes a heroin addict look silly.

And if Microsoft does change its ways, what incentive will you have to stick with Microsoft? If you have to start over from scratch to build your app in this new, secure Microsoft environment, will you pay the hundreds or thousands of dollars to go the Microsoft route, or the $0 to go with Linux?

Starting from Scratch
Starting over from scratch nullifies the one advantage that Microsoft has, complete code and a trained staff. Migration and retraining features prominently in most Microsoft white papers, and if it has to throw all that away, what chance does it have?

In light of the won't do and can't do, Microsoft sits there, and watches its market share begin to erode. That's happening slowly at first, but the snowball is rolling. A few people are starting to look up the hill and notice this big thing barreling down at them, and some are bright enough to step out of the way.

The big industry change is happening, and we are at the inflection point. Watch closely people, and carefully read each and every press release. If you can see the big picture, this is one shift that won't be a surprise in hindsight.

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Using hindsight we can see how prophetic this writing was. At that time, VCSY was on the cusp of turning the tide against her attackers by engaging Mister Gyselen in a settlement which allowed VCSY to go after a larger prey in CDC (who would buy Ross the next year) and Ross Systems... and anyone else to which the trails lead.

Yessirree bob I remember 2003. That were a rough and ready year. Somebody was working hard to make sure VCSY stayed in the dustbin of the dotcom boom and bust. Lots of inferred anxiety and high hostility. Here's just a random sample from the archives during that hot summer.

By: scam.slammer
06 Jun 2003, 01:42 PM EDT
Msg. 113891 of 185268
(This msg. is a reply to 113741 by Portuno_Diamo.)

Portuno, you asked what I know about Wade.

What I know is that he started this scam. And it is a scam because it was basically a hollow shell that pretended to be a real business so it could sell its worthless shell stock to gullible investors who don't take the time to read SEC filings (or can't understand what they're reading). It targeted folks who don't understand what a "blank check" operation is or how such a stock is fundamentally the same as a pyramid scheme except with more losers. That's all I need to know to be certain Wade is a scammer who started this company as a premediated scam to rip off investors. This is one of many issues you won't explicitly address except with lame copouts like your inane suggestion that all public corps are scams.


Anyone who takes a hollow shell corp and pumps it up with PAID STOCK TOUTS like the sleazoids from the Hawke Group and Equitilink from day one is running a premeditated scam intended only to transfer money from conned investors to himself and his associates. The idiotic parlor trick of the massive forward split that kicked off the initial pump & dump routine makes it clear that they were targeting ignorant investors. These issues you will also refuse to address explicitly.

As for your precious software that you've been tellling us will revolutionize the world for a couple of years now, if it was all that the original owner wouldn't have sold it to an otherwise worthless shell for a few thousand dollars. Duh! That alone tells you no one else in the entire tech world wanted it (don't infer from this that I think VCSY is really in the tech world).

I guess only you and Wade were brilliant enough to recognize its value and no one else in the tech world with actual assets to pay for it could see what you two see. Yeah, that must be it. Or maybe the guy who created it was an idiot savant who made world shaking software and sold it for nothing because he didn't know any better. Whatever, I'm sure this is just another issue you will avoid explicitly addressing just as you have always refused to make explicit statement in a real dialog that is relevant to the company.

Gawd! You'd think after two years of you jokers touting this stock without ever presenting any explicit rationale for why it's worth a dime everyone would be on to you by now. Most are on to you, I'm sure, but it seems you still have a couple of toadies hanging around waiting for you to give the order to drink the kool-aid, Mr. Jones.

"Drink up, boys! Sure it looks like kool-aid and has an odd taste, but it's really prime orange juice! Trust me! Have I ever steered you wrong?"
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By: recy43
06 Jun 2003, 02:56 PM EDT
Msg. 113908 of 185268

There is absolutely no reason that vcsy didn't file other than they chose not to. Any pending litigation or material facts could have easily been adressed in a timely filing. ie",vcsy is currently in arbitration concerning the % of ownership and board control of Now Solutions. A negative or positive ruling would significantly alter the current financial report."
Vcsy is on the pinks because they choose to be.
That they took this action with no explaination to shareholders and posted inaccurate information regarding their intent to file on their website is a telling signal of their blatant disregard for shareholders.
Can anyone explain why you hire an IR firm, then quit talking to shareholders and then go to the pinks? Does this make rational sense to anyone?�
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By: HABJ
05 Jun 2003, 05:56 PM EDT
Msg. 113803 of 185268

Well, recy....you blew away my morning post about Port's prediction...and here bave has put up 2 (not 1), but 2 IBM PRs dated TODAY (not 6 years from now), 4sirius shows another potential app and biggrad calls your hand. Who does YOUR DD??

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)

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By: recy43
03 Jun 2003, 08:35 AM EDT
Msg. 113606 of 185269
(This msg. is a reply to 113598 by mickk0.)

mickko, In your first post to the board you proudly proclaim you have been holding since pre-split.Please recognize that anyone that stupid has little to offer a stock message board.Please tell me how it would be possible to be any more foolish than that? Are you really saying, at this point in time, that anyone who bought pre-split and is still holding this toilet paper has an investing advantage over anyone? It is unbelievable how brainwashed and idiotic a vcsy long is capable of becoming.
AND in your disclosure you recommend buying more!!!
Are you buying more, Mickko? ...I sure hope so.�
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So, when you read different posters and wonder why they are posting, it's easy to sort out. Follow the money and the mentality suggesting what you do with yours will seem more discernible.

Enjoy the future whether it's your first or last. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:44 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 1:47 PM EDT
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Tuesday, 15 May 2007
When 'Oh yeah, screw you too, buddy!' is followed by a splat...
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Puzzleation and Befuddlement' Madcap detectives chase chicken through cat house. (Preschool / Motor Skills)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Desperate? You mean 'let's burn down the barn!' is a desperate thing to say? Heck, maw can tell ya I been saying that for years. I never knowed I wus desperate. Want a roasted chicken leg?

Microsoft 'desperate,' says patent complaint target OpenOffice.org

The open-source suite violates 45 patents, claims Microsoft
Gregg Keizer

Computerworld

Updated: May 15, 2007 10:47 AM

OpenOffice.org today called Microsoft Corp.'s assertion that its open-source application suite violates 45 of its patents "a desperate act."

"It's just hard to put into credible terms," said Louis Suarez-Potts, a community manager at OpenOffice.org and a seven-year veteran of the all-volunteer group. "I don't understand what motivated Microsoft to risk so much with a position that can only serve to alienate [enterprise] customers, as well as those millions of people who use Linux."

In an interview with Fortune that was posted on the magazine's Web site yesterday, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, spelled out the company's position. During the interview, Smith claimed that OpenOffice.org, the open-source alternative to Microsoft's own Office suite, violates nearly four-dozen patents. Smith did not specify the patents Microsoft believes have been violated by the application collection, nor did a follow-up statement that a Microsoft spokesman issued today.

OpenOffice, which is available in editions for both Windows and Linux, can be downloaded and used for free. A version written for Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X Aqua interface should be ready for beta testing later this year. Microsoft Office 2007, meanwhile, comes in versions for Windows and Mac OS X and is priced starting at $149.

"This is an extraordinary and desperate act," said Suarez-Potts, who works at Collaborative Network Technologies Inc. in Canada. "I think it will backfire. Microsoft's using a shotgun against open source."

Suarez-Potts said he saw evidence of the scattershot approach in Microsoft's focus on GPLv3, Version 3 of the Free Software Foundation's General Public License. A Microsoft spokesman today said, "The latest draft of the GPLv3 attempts to tear down the bridge between proprietary and open-source technology that Microsoft has worked to build with the industry and customers."

But OpenOffice doesn't even use the GPL license, Suarez-Potts noted. "We use the LGPL," he said, referring to the GNU Lesser General Public License.

Previously, the only head-butting between Microsoft and OpenOffice.org has been over document formats, with the former pushing its Open XML and the latter promoting the open-source Open Document Format for Office Applications.

"Incredible and amazing -- those are the words I have for this," Suarez-Potts concluded.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:51 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 3:52 PM EDT
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When he pulled that pin I said 'Throw it stupid!' but he just stood there.
Mood:  spacey
Now Playing: 'At Opryland' Singers regail audience with tales of country-deep high jinks and hilarity. (Family Tragedy)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

I know what you're thinking Pilgrim. You're saying "How can this dinky no-nothing company cause all this pandelirium?" Well, consider this: Jeff Davison (inventor of the XML Enabler Agent patent and the Emily VHLL pending patent) and Aubrey McAuley (inventor of the massive affiliation Web OS patent) and Aluizo Cruz (inventor of the image transmission by single optical fiber patent) have thrown in with the man, Richard Wade (current CEO of Vertical Computers) who worked early financial networks as a computer realm (with Duty Free Shoppers founder Charles Feeney of General Atlantic) relying on Luis Valdetaro's knowledge (creator of the tech for the first transcontinental mainframe networks)...

And you nitwits want to know "How do this be?"?

Are you all stupid as a post? We're up to around 600 viewers here now. In 2000 the number was more like 20,000. Why? Because even the most marginally knowledged traders and investors in 2000 knew the power of XML because it was splased over every magazine page available. These folks buying the stock understood what XML could do back then.The larger mass of investors and traders in technologies today wouldn't know what XML can really do any better then they would be able to recognize a Vietnamese vegetable peeler isn't a surgical instrument.

Fools and blind.

There are only a tiny handful who actually believe Vertical is capable of surviving past month. It's been that way for years since the company's image was hammered into the ground by a relentless team of purposeful naysayers and gopher boppers.

I do believe Mister Ballmer is a believer now. Or else he would be dragging Vertical back through the briars in the news... I wager MSFT won't breathe a word of VCSY's existence. Know why? All those knowlegeable investors and traders out there who were ripped off by a crush on their diamond-to-be would be no-doubt surprised to find VCSY is still alive and with vitality enough to latch on to Steve Ballmer's ankle like a hamhock and not let go until the house comes down.

In Mister Ballmer's thinking he can cling to the long-range view that if he can get patents declared invalid (across the board, Steve? Really? That's an optimisic projection on your part, no?) VCSY's claims against him (he's the guy in charge so it's all in his lap) will evaporate.

Not so, Pilgrim. Not so.

The legal system will have to answer Vertical as to their claim at having been violated as to money-making opportunities (while Microsoft sold billions in .Net projects) while the legal regime in question was fully in force.

In other words, Mister Ballmer, thievery is not excused when you've lost those thieving fingers in a garbage disposal. Sympathy and a hook to hang it on? OK maybe that. But I'll wager you'll be using that hook to fend off the residue of angered shareholders calling you out to explain why you pounded their company into the ground and took their money with it. Tick Tick Tick...

It's the Tock you don't want to hear. 

You see, it's not the 300 reading here now. It's the 20,000 who read this claptrap in 2000 who will all realise with a sudden start just how right Portuno was all that time... and just who's been eating their pie all these years under their noses.

Anger. The one thing a little money doesn't always work against. A LOT of money, maybe. But it will take a barge full of money to assuage the anger of those who owned VCSY stock in 2000 onward who were discouraged and urged to sell by the voices supporting the Vertical take down.

Where are those people? I think they're positioned horizontal right about now. DUCK!


Duck and Cover
Color me Neked

Patience is a virtue. Patience virtualizes all of life.

May 14th, 2007

What should Microsoft do about the 235 “free software” patent violations?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:45 am
Categories: Microsoft, Legal, Linux
A lot of pixels have been devoted to a story by Fortune Magazine (CNN coverage here) covering claims made by Microsoft that free software is violating 235 of the company's patents.
The core of the argument is summed up as follows:
The conflict pits Microsoft and its dogged CEO, Steve Ballmer, against the "free world" - people who believe software is pure knowledge. The leader of that faction is Richard Matthew Stallman, a computer visionary with the look and the intransigence of an Old Testament prophet.
 
Caught in the middle are big corporate Linux users like Wal-Mart, AIG, and Goldman Sachs. Free-worlders say that if Microsoft prevails, the whole quirky ecosystem that produced Linux and other free and open-source software (FOSS) will be undermined.
 
Microsoft counters that it is a matter of principle. "We live in a world where we honor, and support the honoring of, intellectual property," says Ballmer in an interview. FOSS patrons are going to have to "play by the same rules as the rest of the business," he insists. "What's fair is fair."
There's also a breakdown of the alleged violations given:
  • Linux kernel - 42 violations
  • Linux graphical user interfaces - 65 violations
  • Open Office - 45 violations
  • Email apps - 15 violations
  • Misc - 68 violations
If suing was on the cards, rest assured that there wouldn't be this kind of banter going onDespite the breakdown of alleged violations, Microsoft still refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed,.  Many involved in open source communities have asked Microsoft to do this but the company is probably unwilling to take this step for fear of generating a tidal wave of challenges.
First off, let's clear up one thing here.  Microsoft is not interested is suing.  It's already declared such action as being a non-starter as it would "get in the way of everything we were trying to accomplish in terms of [improving] our connections with other companies, the promotion of interoperability, the desires of customers."  If suing was on the cards, rest assured that there wouldn't be this kind of banter going on.
 
Now here's a question for you.  What should Microsoft do about this?  It seems to me that they have three options open to them:
  • Ignore the situation and let the issue slide (effectively donating the patents to the open source community)
  • Demand royalties or enter into licensing agreements
  • Do nothing in the interim but keep an eye on the situation
It's clear that Microsoft isn't going to ignore the issue and let it slide because the company wouldn't be engaging in this debate if that was the case (it's also not going to be a move that pleases Microsoft's stakeholders).  Same goes for doing nothing.  It seems that the only viable route for Microsoft to take is enter into discussions over possible royalties.
 
Some commentators are taking the view that this is signals a new Microsoft desperate to squeeze cash from Linux because its own business model is crumbling.  Given Microsoft's bottom line, this kind of statement is bordering on the ridiculous.  If Microsoft's business model is crumbling, other companies such as Apple, who have a far less muscular bottom line, must be in dire trouble (which they're not, of course).  Record quarterly profits aren't the usual sign of an eroding business model.
 
Some say that Microsoft needs to outline what the violations are and allow the open source community to code around the problems.  That's certainly a possible solution, but give me one reason why Microsoft should do this?
 
Some doubt the numbers.  I don't.  The open source movement is massive and with so much code being written, there are bound to be patent infringements.  As Robert McLaws wrote:
Let's face it. In the world of software development, everyone copies everyone. And Linux is, at it's heart, a decentralized operation to build software that competes against Windows by mimicking it, directly or indirectly. It may even have been done accidentally, which isn't terribly farfetched. Accident or not, it happened, and that's all well and good. But if you're an open source developer, and you think that duplicating someone else's technology doesn't open you or your organization up to liability, then you're an idiot.
The landscape has changed significantly.  Back when open source was the domain of geeks with high ideals, it's easy to overlook patent violations (in fact, it would be nuts to even waste too much time worrying about it).  But now that you have massive companies built on a foundation of open source, open source is big business and the rules have changed.
What are your views on the conflict between Microsoft and the open source movement?
 
I think VCSY should press their case to the end for hostile and damaging infringement by a much larger foe for the years .Net was marketed without recognition of Davison/McAuley knowledge.
 
They should do so while participating with relationships with IBM and Verizon. I mean... it's going to hurt Microsoft more to sue for their patent infringement claims than it's going to hurt VCSY. What have we got to lose (new reader I speaketh as a very minor shareholder)?
 
Microsoft has at risk the commercial goodwill of every company and country that will be encumbered by their dallying and delay since 2004 to prove out these allegations of 'infringement'. Ballmer has cried 'wolf' each time VCSY legal claims close in (look at the timeline and see).
 
He's had and taken plenty time to prove out his 'evidence' against Linux producers.
 
VCSY's proof is in the marketing material and demos from prior to 2004 which mysteriously pops up and goes away periodically in Microsoft technology discussions.
 
Please allow Vertical a similar period to unveil their evidences, ok skeptical world?
 
VCSY just started putting out the proof after being dragged through a pretentious and outlandish legal fight by Chinadotcom(CDC)/Ross Systems which resulted only recently in CDC/Ross submitting to a judge presided settlement (a NEW judge and not the original recalcitrant bench bubbler).
 
VCSY can easily continue the patent infringement claims while marketing their wares in the proprietary AND open-source realm.
 
Use the best of both worlds. 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:01 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 2:03 PM EDT
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Monday, 14 May 2007
Waiting for the bubbles to reach the surface
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: 'Sitting There Like Bait' Advertising exec in shrimp suit gets scalded. (Food / Gambling)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

VCSY Filing Delayed Five (5) Days

Those poor people they can't never seem to be able to scrape up a few quarters to put something in the mail. I guess we'll wait a few more days.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1099509/000114420407025077/0001144204-07-025077-index.htm
The Registrant has experienced delays in resolving legal matters and accounting issues associated with the Company's material subsidiary, Now Solutions, Inc., which are material to the Registrant's financial statements. As a result, Registrant’s accounting department requires additional time to accumulate and review its subsidiaries’ financial information in order to complete the consolidation process, and cannot, without unreasonable effort and expense, file its Form 10-QSB on or before the prescribed filing date. Registrant expects to obtain all required data within the next several days and, as a result, expects to file the Form 10-QSB within five days after the prescribed filing date. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:19 PM EDT
Updated: Monday, 14 May 2007 5:27 PM EDT
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Friday, 11 May 2007
Hello. My card. Did somebody say 'Lawyers'???
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Letters From The Fan Base' Rock star's mail make great origami chickens. (Crafts / Culture)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

And now it's that time in the Funny Funk Frickaseed playhouse to read a few letters from you all out there. Here's one from a little fricknseed.... in west Orange, Texas... and she writes... 

Dear Mister Frickaseed,

My sister Jilly says Bill Gates  can't hook up one computer with another because he don't know how to virtualize because he got that shot off in the war. Can you virtualize? What did you get shot off in the war?

Yers Truly, Darlene

 PS - Love what you done with the new playhouse.

Hey mama! They's reading Darlene's letter on Mister Frickaseed!

 

...heh heh I think I got my social security bennyfits shot off in the war... heh heh heeeee... But that's right boys and girls. Computers need to be connected to make more computers. It's a process called virtualization. Mister Gates had a computer company back in 2001 to 2004 that could virtualize pretty well, but, lately, as it is with most aging codgers, Mister Gates company can't virtualize nothing.

Rumors are it got stepped on by a longhorn but some say that's a lot of bull. Some say the longhorn is a lot of bull and the virtualization venture went off track back in 2004 when Mister Ballmer, who is one of Mister Gates' best friends, threw a chair and punched a hole in his office wall. Well, after that, the saying around the company was the wall is 'probably the ONLY thing that got poked hard enough at Microsoft to make a hole'... heh heh heh... just a little grown up humor kids. You shouldn't know what that means. heh heh heh

Anyway... Mister Frickaseed has read the New Nork Times and come to the conclusion that if Sun can virtualize with their Indiana and Yahoo can virtualize with their Panama and Apple can Virtualize with their Leopard and Microsoft just can't virtualize to save their life, I would say somebody must of cut off Microsoft's virtualizer for everybody because without that, Microsoft computers will be just like the man in this article here says; either a whole lot of servers you can pop in and out of your server needs in a jiffy or a whole lot of boxes you're supposed to hook up with each other and they sit and use not very much when nobody needs them. What that means is you either have your stuff virtualized or you have to have special programs to translate what the other computers are trying to do with you... the other ones that are already virtualized, that is, and here you go sitting there dumb like a pumpkin...

Here's one way to say it here: "The “one box per application” mentality—along with continuous hardware upgrades with greater computing power—has driven a proliferation of diverse servers that are increasingly underutilized." You can read the rest of what this guy says in this article called:

Make sure virtualization isn't the next big mess

By Andrew Hillier, CiRBA, Special to ZDNet
Published on ZDNet News: May 10, 2007, 11:20 AM PT
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6182873.html

Here's one excerpt from that:

Most organizations don’t have a strong enough discipline around purchasing or asset management, making it difficult to inventory servers. Once organizations move into the virtual world—where you can create a logical machine without having any paper trail—this problem grows exponentially. Organizations will be caught in the same trap as they currently are with physical servers: not knowing which servers exist, who created them, which applications they support and whether or not they need them.

What that means is it's not enough to simply have a way of enabling your proprietary data into a deterministic form to exchange with other XML-based virtualized services. You can get that in the VCSY patent 7,076,521

But it doesn't do you any good if you have no way to manage all these virtualized services like 6,826,744 does. Of course, you'll have to have other things too to make your computers do what you really want them to do real architected managed services, but you AT LEAST have to have these two basic frameworks in XML services to make a web services system really work. Sure you can go parading around town in your momma's high heels, but that don't mean your momma's walking the skreet. Sure, you can go waltzing around town in your dady's boxers, but that don't mean you got the factory for making bread and butter in there.

In the computer world isn't like the theatrical world. See what you're looking at? All this you're looking at really doesn't exist. It's all in front of your head. Stick your hand out and touch the screen, little heathen, and now THAT is real... and so is the operations and work being done inside that thing. THAT's real. But, you want to talk REAL reality, it's sitting on your lumpy ass writing children's pap when you could be authoring web systems that would change the wor...

Hello again, boys and girls... remember, the things that do what you're looking at are real and the news events are real and with computers the people that sell those things to your mommies and daddies are taking real bucks and bingos from your little faces and it's up to you whether the company that SAYS it can but can't SHOW it can is the one that's taking more bucks and bingos than you should allow... as a mob..

 

I think Mister Gates' company doesn't have the where-with-all to virtualize so they're finally saying to hell with it. We'll sit on our islands of automation and live with it.

I do think somebody told Mister Gates' the words he never really thought he would hear from anyone... no matter how big. No. Go away and crawl under a rock and die.

In this business, boys and girls of all ages, it's either do it yourself or pay for it or find somebody kind enough to give it to you. Paying for it is embarrassing but sometimes that's the way life is. If you don't pay for it... you get a reputation as somebody who takes without following the rules everybody else laid down.

And THEN, if you get caught trying to sneak a peak or leak the teak, oil the boil, get the let, or any of a hundred other ways to say 'I'm above the law', you get nailed because nobody wants to let their reputation and company and family names lean on your shed.

When your farm gets prospected and surveyed and turned into a parking lot, you have only yourself to blame for not following rules that are so clear, they are written down in the office of every politician we give enough money to to get an office. THOSE are the people who should know. But how can they know if the subject uses the same names and tactics of those who HAVE to be a HAVE NOT YET LOOK LIKE?

Remember the server center in a container Sun put out last year. Weirdest piece of genius I've ever seen. I have to say I myself didn't get it until a couple days ago when somebody jogged my memory. OF COURSE. Brilliant use of putting a computer where the computer NEEDS to be with ALL the power of every computer in the world. I wonder if Ray Noorda got to see a real NOW? A NOW that can span the globe to bring all the computing power available IN the world in for consultation when needed.

It's going to take an awful lot to astound me at this rate. OKAAAAYYYY can I bring this rocket ship in for anything more than a crash landing? I can guess every parent out there is horrified and the kids are out making soda-straw villages with the fire ants.

The point? Microsoft version of the server center in a box doesn't fair too well.

Certainly you can transact between disparate software bodies, but the interaction will be a poor imitation just as the 'server in a container' idea is... for controlling distributed commerce. For doing commerce at the local place, it is applied as a proper use of the island of automation theory. What am I talking about? Read this and do some noodling with crayons on your momma's living room walls and see what kind of attention you get for the weekend:

Document Type and Number:
United States Patent 20040039800         Kind Code: A1
Link to this page:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20040039800.html
Abstract:
Systems and methods for providing interoperability of systems are provided. One embodiment may be seen as instantiating a server in a container having instances of Enterprise Java.TM. Beans (EJB), and accessing the EJB through the local interface of the EJB. Since the EJB is accessed from within the container, the need for translation of messaging protocols at a bridge is removed. The server components are provided access to the EJB logic through the local interface of the EJB.

 

No matter how the struggle ends, the fact remains today that Microsoft is having to gut (again) their vaunted .Net platform to make it more... what? for the future? More compact? Hardly. More flexibile? Maybe if you don't mind buying different servers anytime you want to do the laundry. Heck, they're virtual right? So the only real thing is the money! Yeahhh... great idea. Gut em.

You still have to provide the management to govern all these conglomerated islands of automation. I mean YOU will have to with your littlecadre' of gnome developers using 20th century tools work on 21st century metal. Hack hack hack.

It's like what we found out when we were standing out in the skreet when the nice Amazon people paid the nice IBM lawyers for 'services rendered' this past Toosday. There's always something else when it comes to software. And, if you don't have it, you can always say you do and you can fake it in a demo, but, when it comes to standing up in front of people and telling the truth, you know Mister Frickies motto: tell the truth even if it hurts because the lie will hurt a lot more for a longer time. You parents can get that saying bronzed on your own shoes one day for $39.95.

HA Mister Frickaseed don't need to tell you kiddies what happens if a computer can't virtualize. HA "Can Bobby come out and play?" "Jimmy, you know Bobby lost both arms and legs in that train accident." "Yes ma'am, but we need something for third base. You got any seat cushions?" Even if a server is special enough to end up being used for home plate, everybody's still either running away from it or running towards it but nobody makes any points just standing there. You gotta PLAY and virtualization makes it easier to play with anybody for any pretend or real game...

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Woops... here's a Frickofeed from the old Frickophone that says.... mmfmfffm fmff fmffmmf fmfmffmf fmfff ffhsuihefffmmmttlll mfmfmfmf ffm fffmm fapapaaa fmmmmmss shshss ... hole $#!@!

Boys and girls THIS is so big old Lawrance Frickaseed just HAS to put this up on the screem for you to get it:

Microsoft cuts Windows virtualization features

By Ina Fried, and Stephen Shankland, CNET News.com
Published on ZDNet News: May 10, 2007, 10:46 AM PT
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6182873.html

REDMOND, Wash.-Microsoft said on Thursday that it is pulling features out of the initial version of its "Viridian" hypervisor to avoid having to delay the virtualization technology.

The company is changing three key features of the hypervisor technology to try to stick to its schedule of releasing the technology within 180 days of completing its Windows Server "Longhorn" operating system, due to be finalized before the end of the year. The features will be included in a future version of Viridian, formally called Windows Server Virtualization, the company said.

The first feature that is being taken out of the initial Viridian release is so-called live migration, which enables people to move a running virtual machine from one physical server to another. The initial release of Viridian also won't support on-the-fly, or "hot," adding of memory, storage, processors or network cards. And it will only support computers with a maximum of 16 processing cores--for example, eight dual-core chips or four quad-core chips.

The move limits Viridian's initial scope and gives more breathing room to competing projects--most notably Xen and VMware.

"Those guys just can't get a product out the door to save their lives. Not having live migrate a year from now--talk about 'behind the times.' Windows development is just broken," Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff said. "For a (version) 1.0 virtualization offering to be missing critical features a year hence puts Microsoft in a truly bad market position, perhaps to the point where they should seriously consider partnering with VMware."

In a blog posting, the general manager of virtualization strategy at Microsoft, Mike Neil, said the company is making some "tough decisions" to meet its schedule.

"Shipping is a feature too," Neil said.

In April, Microsoft delayed the first beta version of Viridian from the first half of this year to the second half. The company said on Thursday that a public beta of Viridian will be introduced with the release to manufacturing of Longhorn Server.

"We had some really tough decisions to make," Neil said. "We adjusted the feature set of Windows Server virtualization so that we can deliver a compelling solution for core virtualization scenarios while holding true to desired timelines."

With no live migration support, Viridian will be useful for a common early use of virtualization, replacing several underutilized servers with a smaller number of more efficiently used ones. But it means that Viridian won't be immediately useful for a more sophisticated virtual-computing environment in which tasks are shuttled from computer to computer to adjust to changing work priorities or faulty hardware.

VMware, the leading x86 virtualization company, has supported live migration since 2003 with its VMotion software. And the EMC subsidiary's Virtual Infrastructure 3 software--available for more than a year--enables much of the higher-level incarnation of virtualization that treats multiple servers as a pool of computing power.

Xen supports live migration with versions of Linux that have been specifically adapted for the virtualization software. The next version of the Xen hypervisor, 3.1, due within days, will add live migration support for Windows and unmodified Linux, said XenSource Chief Technology Officer Simon Crosby.

Capping Viridian support at 16 is a less significant change because the vast majority of x86 servers don't exceed that limit. That reality is likely to prevail, even after the second half of this year, when 16-core servers will become more common by virtue of new Intel and Advanced Micro Devices quad-core chips for servers with four processor sockets.

Being able to add new resources to servers as they run through "hot-add" capability significantly improves a server's reliability. However, it's not common for most administrators today.

Live migration can help reduce the need for hot-add technology because customers could move virtual machines to a second system while the first is upgraded or repaired.

Xen today supports hot-add capability for memory, disks, network cards and processors.

 

Why heck! Whadya think of THEM rode apples, folks?

Wow. 

"We had some really tough decisions to make" What were they 'Who gets fired for incompetence?' 'Why can't we use the old stuff?' 'Why can't we use the new stuff?' 'Why can't we get anything right the first... or second or third time?'

Tell me just one thing... were there LAWYERS involved in any of these tough questions? Now, THOSE become tough questions. Sometimes TOO tough and the poop hits the props, as it were, and then 'show's over'. Who wants to watch a production what's got poop on the props. The curtains... the set... the actors... the makeup... god what a mess. Maybe somebody can come up with a way to virtualize a mess and then you can at least sell something out of the pile. They did it with crappy rubber and fake doggy poop. But, then, THAT's an example of something 'real' a company can produce.

Like I said... "it's not real until it runs on  Mister Frickaseeds' computer."

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:54 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 11 May 2007 4:43 PM EDT
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Thursday, 10 May 2007
Is This Normal Behaviour for Mister Gates?
Mood:  accident prone
Now Playing: 'Has The Rainy Day Come To Stay?' Deaf-mute knows the secret of life but can't tell. (Adult Themes)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

I don't know what to make of this if this has been regular behaviour for Mister Gates over the past years. At this rate he could sell off  884,000,000 shares a year. If it's true he does this all the time, does he have much faith in Microsoft's future? Or when he says he's 'getting out' does that mean we could assume 'while the getting's good'?

mm-buster cackalates Bill Gates has sold 17 Million shares in the last week($520 Million worth) 

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000902012&owner=include&count=40

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000090201207000034/xslF345X02/edgar.xml


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 9:41 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 9:42 PM EDT
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