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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Thursday, 17 May 2007
You mind getting that?
Mood:  d'oh
Now Playing: 'Prom Date Dazzle' Sister's little brother tormented by her prom date. (Safety Training)
Topic: The Sneaky Runarounds

And, no, this isn't my last post. Actually, it's not technically a post. It's kind of like this grenade rolled by me and I'm just handing it off to you. It needs to be in Notable Opinions but this three legged thingie is pretty sparse on features, as it were, and not conducive to the categorizationing. The google (Laughing Place #3) site provides labels that would be good for searching if people like me were more conscientious and used them.

Anywho, another tricycle incident. Kid was pedalling up into tailpipes all day and somebody finally backed one up on him. That's a shame. Somebody should tell his mom.

By: peterd13
16 May 2007, 07:45 PM EDT
Msg. 185358 of 185376
(This msg. is a reply to 185300 by tepe.)

Tepe,

You have told us that you're not here for the very long haul - that you REALLY don't believe in this stock, and that you only invested here on a hunch without doing any DD until after the fact. And you've stated that you play 'the pennies' for short term gains...

So again, here we go:

Your post: "....If buying under 2 cents was so obvious, why wasn't eveyone doing it? The volume was in the toilet.

Sure, in retrospect I can tell anyone where they should have bought and sold a stock. But I'll bet even those who bought at under 2 cents are still holding on for the "big run"......"

To respond: It took only three days to accumulate more than 1,200,000 shares between 1.6 and 1.8 cents about 3-4 weeks prior to the Monday run up to 3.3 cents. There was plenty of volume. (Investment result: about $20,000 to buy; about $37,000 at the sell - which only took 4 minutes on that Monday....)

So, I know that you're not SERIOUS and you don't really believe that there are NO investors here that bought recently under 2 cents and sold above 3 cents.....Especially those of us, like you, who watch this stock nearly daily? The real question is (as I asked you in the post in question): "How come you didn't?!?!?!?!" I mean, to read your considerable posts over this past year, by your own words you're one savvy investor.....

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=183409

Come on Tepe; this is a question of credibility!

You don't like the stock, you bash it constantly, but when there is money to be made (your stated purpose for being here, afterall....) you claim that it was just too difficult to 'see' it.....

my,my....you would like us to read and or pay attention to what you have to say, but to follow this stock this closely for more than a year, be an in and out kind of penny stock trader, and to have not made any money here at all (to still be at a paper loss) is just absurd!!

You have ZERO credibility

'nuf said

peterd13

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

 

Grenade! 

By: 4sirius2
16 May 2007, 10:29 PM EDT
Msg. 185366 of 185378
(This msg. is a reply to 185361 by tepe.)

Tepe, you mean you haven't even read the VCSY website or much of
the filings to know that Emily is the first product of Vertical
among all of them? Emily is the scripting language that was used
to create the XML Enabler. You might do well also to read
Portuno's older posts, start as far back as they go and move
forward to understand how integral it is, and to understand that
Emily can create many other fine products like the Enabler and
the Broker Agent. The Broker Agent? That's been around since
2000 and is in use for procurement. Get a grip, do some DD,
and stop wasting your time trying to convince the board that the
sky is falling on us. It's on you only you've had your back turned.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

 

MORTAR ROUND! Hey buddy, pass this over to the guy in the green pants.

By: vcsymojo
16 May 2007, 10:54 PM EDT
Msg. 185367 of 185378

The little fish is a liar. One of the biggest liars in the history of the VCSY board. Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. If he is a shareholder, which is extremely doubtful because of his actions, i.e., bashing the stock the day after he supposedly bought, then he owns a few hundred shares, a few dollars worth. That is only a legal ploy so when the law goes after him, as it will, then his argument will be, "No, see, I own 500 shares of VCSY. I am a disgruntled shareholder. I have the right to my freedom of speech."

No, he doesn't. Someone can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre, and little disgruntled miserable humans shouldn't be able to yell "SELL" because they're getting paid $6/hour and they have no other hope to make a decent life. I'm sorry he's mentally challenged and can only post lies to make a few bucks after the shift at the Burger King ends. That's why he pops on here every night at 8pm EST. The shift for the special education adults who can't get real jobs end, and the 16 year olds take over...That's what really pisses someone like the little fish off that he has to bow down and say "yes sir" to a pimply faced 19 year old who is his shift manager. I'd be mad all the time too. I'd come on here and scream and ##### and complain because my life was horrible.

He's a liar. He's a cheap pawn in a big player's game. He's a nobody. And one day, he'll be gone. His employer will want to spend that $6/hr. elsewhere and he'll go whine and complain somewhere else.

Pathetic life.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)

Satchel charge! Uhhh, excuse me, buddy... mind standing in the way of these twenty thousand beebees?

By: RapidRobert2
16 May 2007, 11:25 PM EDT
Msg. 185368 of 185378

(This msg. is a reply to 185361 by tepe.)

That is simply more nonsense and false information from you. The 'XML Enabler' PATENT is not 'emily'...that is patent PENDING. Understand? 'EMILY' is PATENT PENDING, DUH!

Of course, what else do you have except False Information to bash with?

NOW, you show you don't even KNOW about the software that IS owned BY VCSY and YOU continue to BASH as if you do.

Well, by YOUR own posts, you ARE irrelevant since we NOW KNOW you do NOT even understand the technology of VCSY. YOU do NOT even understand the "patent" system and the courts. MSFT already tried with a 'CHALLENGE' and LOST...understand that word...microsoft LOST the CHALLENGE against the technology of VCSY.

microsoft WILL SIGN the LICENSE with Vertical Computer Systems and perhaps even PAY annual ROYALTY fees.

And, you bought FOUR times over MONTHS during the last YEAR, as you state, and still blame someone else for your not doing any research over all THOSE MONTHS.

You ARE NOT a shareholder, just a basher out to harm VCSY and attack supporters of VCSY.

Thanks for showing your LACK of KNOWledge. You fail even to understand the basics of the technology of VCSY and have claimed the 'Fiber Optic' patent won't work and you DO NOT even understand it or ANY VCSY PATENTS or the one PATENT PENDING...Don't go down the road trying to blame others for your LACK of KNOWledge. That won't work with the way you BASH this company.

RR
IMOi??

 

Oh, it's a scene, man. Kung Foo with goo foo.

 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BB:VCSY


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:38 AM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 17 May 2007 3:25 AM EDT
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Wednesday, 16 May 2007
My back pages...
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'It Fell From The Sky' Found object causes dithering in political circles. (Crime/Drama)
Topic: The Sneaky Runarounds

NO. THIS is not the last post. It's technically not really a post because all I'm going to do here is record for posteriors what was said. I will post in my last post that I think this sounds like a change of de facto leadership where no facto is needed. The statements show enough. I would think "good cop bad cop" except this sounds more like a struggle with "smart cop stupid cop".

We'll patiently watch the wrastling match in the store window for entertainment and info. Meanwhile, just some leaflets blown from the tree of life;

To Wit: 

May 16th, 2007

Microsoft: If we’re violating IP, ‘we’ll take a license’

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 9:53 am

On May 13, Microsoft finally put a number behind its previous claims that open-source software violated Microsoft patents. In an article published in Fortune Magazine, Microsoft IP lawyers claimed that free and open-source software (FOSS) violates 235 Microsoft patents.

Now, courtesy of the same Microsoft public-relations representative who provided us press/blogger folks with Microsoft’s full statement on May 14 on its latest patent-infringement claims, here are a couple more Microsoft sound bites on this issue.


Q: What kinds of tools/processes did Microsoft use to determine which open-source code allegedly infringe on Microsoft’s patents?

A: No further details are available at this time.

Q: Some in the industry are saying that this isn’t a one-way street — that Microsoft’s technology likely infringes on open source patents. What’s Microsoft’s response to that?

A: “In 2003 Microsoft announced that we were open for business and would license our IP to all comers including open source. Our patent portfolio scores very high on patent quality and science linkage (http://www.patentboard.com/home/index.asp?c=13). As you may know
Microsoft also licenses in the third party patent rights we need to stand behind our products and offer our customers industry leading IP indemnification.

“In the past three years we have paid more than $1.4 billion to license third party patent rights. If a company is interested in using Microsoft’s IP to innovate in the marketplace they should come talk to us. Conversely, if a company believes we are using its IP they should come talk to us as well. If it is true we will take a license. That is how innovation industries work. Everyone should play by the same rules.”

Q: Why is Microsoft going public with more specifics — in terms of numbers and general technology areas allegedly infringing on your patents — now? Why this week?

A: “The latest draft of the GPLv3 attempts to tear down the bridge that Microsoft and Novell have built between proprietary and open source software. Now that we have a solution in place we’re discussing the patent issue more directly in an effort to call attention to the problem and emphasize the important need for the bridge in a world where many customers have mixed technology solutions.

“The patent issue has been recognized by others in the industry. Richard Stallman, the founder of the Free Software Foundation, and other free software leaders believe there is overlap between our IP portfolio and various open source software components. This is further supported by a review done by the Open Source-lead Open Source Risk Management group indicating areas of IP overlap between major software vendors and open source.

“Now that we have built a bridge our focus is on making it work.”

That’s one heck of a strategy for building bridges between proprietary and open source. Looks more like bombing bridges, to me….

I’m still waiting to see what Bill Hilf, Microsoft’s general manager of platform strategy, is going to say about all this. Hilf posted to the Microsoft Port 25 blog that he was misquoted on various inflammatory statements about Linux, which were published in Bangkok the same time that Microsoft went public with its patent-infringement claims in Fortune. But so far, Hilf’s been mum on Microsoft’s IP lawyers’ comments.

And if you don't mind, I'll drop these keys here just for storage. No place to keep them right now until I straighten up the place for new boarders.

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=109576
Note: Raging Bull "technical glitch" 'destroyed' posts before January 21, 2003.

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=109561

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=109560
 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:14 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 3:23 PM EDT
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No this is not the last song.
Mood:  caffeinated
Now Playing: 'Last Call' Stock broker finds out phone number to local bakery is number to winning lottery ticket. (Reality)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

You'll know it when you hear it.

Excuse me. I needed to kick the tin cans away from the door here so I could let you in. What can I say? I'm a lousy housekeeper and I have low pride of ownership on material things. It's free here on tripody. Free bandwidth free storage. Maybe if I paid for it I would be more careful where I put the tv trays and the recycle bins.

As it is, I hope to never become a professional at this. I do it for free so the cost of all this information (as tacky and as ill-kept as it may appear to those who make a business of this kind of thing) comes to you for nada damn thing.

Others are more respectful of money, though. They criticize me (and you by inference) for not paying more attention to things like money and time so those must rank up amongst their highest principles not to waste.

Yet, they rant the livelong day about what a waste it is to put your money in VCSY stock while "so many other stocks are doing great". I suppose ALL VCSY shareholders are dumped by their insinuations in that slop bucket.

As those posters say they value time as much as money more than I or more than the average VCSY shareholder, the only reasonable conclusion I can come up with why they do this sort of thing every day is they get paid. 

Me? I benefit greatly from posting as I am expressing opinions backed by facts on my investment. Besides getting to freely voice my opinions about something I care about passionately, I get to practice my typing and my posture. I get to think inside out of the box. I get to eat Cheerios all day and watch Oprah and think "What a good lad am I!" I get to tell fascinating people to stuff their high-minded righteousness up their tubular floutations and come to at least something more than an ad hoc basis as regards their intellectual honesty.

I also get to sit backwards on the ride so I can see more clearly where we are going because the ride behind has put us on that trajectory. It's what all inertial guidance does and wow do I have inertia

 

The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350

Comment In the beginning there was Microsoft. Then it exploded

By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 28 December 2003, 11:31

excerpted

EVERY SO often, there is a big shift in an industry. The shifts are not usually visible until long after they've happened, making you look back and say: "Oh yeah, things were different back then"....

...The fact remains that Microsoft's entire infrastructure is based on fundamentally flawed designs, not buggy code. These designs can't be changed.

To change them, Microsoft would have to dump all existing APIs and break compatibility with everything up till now. If Microsoft does do this, it will have the opportunity to fix the designs that plague its product lineup.

I doubt it will. Even .Net, the new secure infrastructure, and built with security in mind, lets you have access to the 'old ways'. Yes, you are not supposed to, but people somehow do, and hackers will. Microsoft and its customer are addicted to backwards compatibility in a way that makes a heroin addict look silly.

And if Microsoft does change its ways, what incentive will you have to stick with Microsoft? If you have to start over from scratch to build your app in this new, secure Microsoft environment, will you pay the hundreds or thousands of dollars to go the Microsoft route, or the $0 to go with Linux?

Starting from Scratch
Starting over from scratch nullifies the one advantage that Microsoft has, complete code and a trained staff. Migration and retraining features prominently in most Microsoft white papers, and if it has to throw all that away, what chance does it have?

In light of the won't do and can't do, Microsoft sits there, and watches its market share begin to erode. That's happening slowly at first, but the snowball is rolling. A few people are starting to look up the hill and notice this big thing barreling down at them, and some are bright enough to step out of the way.

The big industry change is happening, and we are at the inflection point. Watch closely people, and carefully read each and every press release. If you can see the big picture, this is one shift that won't be a surprise in hindsight.

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Using hindsight we can see how prophetic this writing was. At that time, VCSY was on the cusp of turning the tide against her attackers by engaging Mister Gyselen in a settlement which allowed VCSY to go after a larger prey in CDC (who would buy Ross the next year) and Ross Systems... and anyone else to which the trails lead.

Yessirree bob I remember 2003. That were a rough and ready year. Somebody was working hard to make sure VCSY stayed in the dustbin of the dotcom boom and bust. Lots of inferred anxiety and high hostility. Here's just a random sample from the archives during that hot summer.

By: scam.slammer
06 Jun 2003, 01:42 PM EDT
Msg. 113891 of 185268
(This msg. is a reply to 113741 by Portuno_Diamo.)

Portuno, you asked what I know about Wade.

What I know is that he started this scam. And it is a scam because it was basically a hollow shell that pretended to be a real business so it could sell its worthless shell stock to gullible investors who don't take the time to read SEC filings (or can't understand what they're reading). It targeted folks who don't understand what a "blank check" operation is or how such a stock is fundamentally the same as a pyramid scheme except with more losers. That's all I need to know to be certain Wade is a scammer who started this company as a premediated scam to rip off investors. This is one of many issues you won't explicitly address except with lame copouts like your inane suggestion that all public corps are scams.


Anyone who takes a hollow shell corp and pumps it up with PAID STOCK TOUTS like the sleazoids from the Hawke Group and Equitilink from day one is running a premeditated scam intended only to transfer money from conned investors to himself and his associates. The idiotic parlor trick of the massive forward split that kicked off the initial pump & dump routine makes it clear that they were targeting ignorant investors. These issues you will also refuse to address explicitly.

As for your precious software that you've been tellling us will revolutionize the world for a couple of years now, if it was all that the original owner wouldn't have sold it to an otherwise worthless shell for a few thousand dollars. Duh! That alone tells you no one else in the entire tech world wanted it (don't infer from this that I think VCSY is really in the tech world).

I guess only you and Wade were brilliant enough to recognize its value and no one else in the tech world with actual assets to pay for it could see what you two see. Yeah, that must be it. Or maybe the guy who created it was an idiot savant who made world shaking software and sold it for nothing because he didn't know any better. Whatever, I'm sure this is just another issue you will avoid explicitly addressing just as you have always refused to make explicit statement in a real dialog that is relevant to the company.

Gawd! You'd think after two years of you jokers touting this stock without ever presenting any explicit rationale for why it's worth a dime everyone would be on to you by now. Most are on to you, I'm sure, but it seems you still have a couple of toadies hanging around waiting for you to give the order to drink the kool-aid, Mr. Jones.

"Drink up, boys! Sure it looks like kool-aid and has an odd taste, but it's really prime orange juice! Trust me! Have I ever steered you wrong?"
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By: recy43
06 Jun 2003, 02:56 PM EDT
Msg. 113908 of 185268

There is absolutely no reason that vcsy didn't file other than they chose not to. Any pending litigation or material facts could have easily been adressed in a timely filing. ie",vcsy is currently in arbitration concerning the % of ownership and board control of Now Solutions. A negative or positive ruling would significantly alter the current financial report."
Vcsy is on the pinks because they choose to be.
That they took this action with no explaination to shareholders and posted inaccurate information regarding their intent to file on their website is a telling signal of their blatant disregard for shareholders.
Can anyone explain why you hire an IR firm, then quit talking to shareholders and then go to the pinks? Does this make rational sense to anyone?�
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By: HABJ
05 Jun 2003, 05:56 PM EDT
Msg. 113803 of 185268

Well, recy....you blew away my morning post about Port's prediction...and here bave has put up 2 (not 1), but 2 IBM PRs dated TODAY (not 6 years from now), 4sirius shows another potential app and biggrad calls your hand. Who does YOUR DD??

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)

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By: recy43
03 Jun 2003, 08:35 AM EDT
Msg. 113606 of 185269
(This msg. is a reply to 113598 by mickk0.)

mickko, In your first post to the board you proudly proclaim you have been holding since pre-split.Please recognize that anyone that stupid has little to offer a stock message board.Please tell me how it would be possible to be any more foolish than that? Are you really saying, at this point in time, that anyone who bought pre-split and is still holding this toilet paper has an investing advantage over anyone? It is unbelievable how brainwashed and idiotic a vcsy long is capable of becoming.
AND in your disclosure you recommend buying more!!!
Are you buying more, Mickko? ...I sure hope so.�
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So, when you read different posters and wonder why they are posting, it's easy to sort out. Follow the money and the mentality suggesting what you do with yours will seem more discernible.

Enjoy the future whether it's your first or last. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:44 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 1:47 PM EDT
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Tuesday, 15 May 2007

Does Microsoft realize they waited way late to take this 'we're gonna sue' stand? I would think it looks like 'first to the intersection' defines whether Microsoft secured a bastion with Novell or simply unlocked the gate.

 

A significant addition to the draft in review General Public License for Linux:

Each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under the contributor’s essential patent claims in its contribution, to make, use, sell, offer for sale, import and otherwise run, modify and propagate the contribution.

In other words, thanks for the contribution, Microsoft. One open-source vendor is all open-source vendors especially when there is a mechanism for soothing Microsoft's pangs by accepting money from them. Microsoft is a contributor to the open-source movement insofar as they participate in the Linux contact between the two 'properties'.

A common saying has been about Linux and open-source; "Microsoft will become open-source or die fighting it."

 

UPDATE 

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Microsoft will not sue Linux for patent violations

Despite not being happy with the revisions, Microsoft will not try to procure royalty payments from Linux users, corporate or home alike.

It claims to have made such threats against Linux only to highlight the issue...

...Microsoft believes that Linux is in violation of its patents but no action is going to take place against the users or the operating system itself.

...don’t know if that’s because Microsoft feels they couldn’t win, it would tarnish the already somewhat damaged image of the company or that it’s just not worth the trouble.

 

Would you make up my fricking mind? 

I would bet they should like for Vertical to take the same approach. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:34 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 5:39 PM EDT
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Now, when I say...
Mood:  don't ask
Now Playing: 'Mechanised Mulch' Gardening accidents including patio pounding and rare 'bulbing' scenes. (Handy Person Tips)
Topic: Calamity

... and I saw, there... in the lawn under a bayobob tree... a stone marker that read... 

"What's fair is fair."

 

Steve Ballmer 

requianimus postulorum

2007 ana dominae

 

...a monument of a man... 

Meanwhile... back in the gardner's shack... Pinups.


Color me Revolted

That Betty Cable had some great legs, huh? Them things went all the way from the mail box to the sidewalk.

Thow me the tv guide. What's on... what's on... what's on....

Microsoft's patent hard line hardest on startups
When elephants fight, it's the grass that gets trampled

Nope. Don't like Elephant movies. I get cross-eyed trying to take in the close-ups.

FAQ: What's behind Microsoft's saber-rattling against open source?

Rattled sabers makes me nervous like. I had a aunt rattled sabers at me ever time I touched the turkey.

Open-source users, companies scoff at Microsoft threats

Scoff. What's that? Like Scrots? I don't want to see none of them medical shows like that one they showed on Scrot's Terror. DAMN that was nasty. They had this old boy trussed up like a cat in a bag full of shoestrings just so's he would keep his hands off the itch. Know what I mean? I don't need to watch something like that before dinner.

How satisfied are Microsoft customers?

Nope. They ain't a damn thing on tv. That's either Maury or Jerry and I can't abide all that perverse talk. Makes one 'tug the nuglets', as it were, and that can only lead to something as woesome as scrot's terror and what are you gonna do then being cursed by the lord for slappin pappy? Nope. Safer to stay away from all that heathenism or you end up like what's under that monument out there... say... what are those people doing?

Excuse me folks but you wasn't supposed to bring a shovel into the symmetry. We's gonna have to confiscate that.

See that, Bob? They dug up Mister Ballmers Roy Rogers lunch bucket.

Hey lookit. They's some magazines rolled up in here. I woulda figgered we'd find a baloney sandwich.

Microsoft Eschews Audits -- but Reserves the Right

Microsoft Faces More Questions on Asset Management Program

Microsoft's forceful FOSS fight (and electric Harleys)

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:29 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 5:17 PM EDT
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When 'Oh yeah, screw you too, buddy!' is followed by a splat...
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Puzzleation and Befuddlement' Madcap detectives chase chicken through cat house. (Preschool / Motor Skills)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Desperate? You mean 'let's burn down the barn!' is a desperate thing to say? Heck, maw can tell ya I been saying that for years. I never knowed I wus desperate. Want a roasted chicken leg?

Microsoft 'desperate,' says patent complaint target OpenOffice.org

The open-source suite violates 45 patents, claims Microsoft
Gregg Keizer

Computerworld

Updated: May 15, 2007 10:47 AM

OpenOffice.org today called Microsoft Corp.'s assertion that its open-source application suite violates 45 of its patents "a desperate act."

"It's just hard to put into credible terms," said Louis Suarez-Potts, a community manager at OpenOffice.org and a seven-year veteran of the all-volunteer group. "I don't understand what motivated Microsoft to risk so much with a position that can only serve to alienate [enterprise] customers, as well as those millions of people who use Linux."

In an interview with Fortune that was posted on the magazine's Web site yesterday, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, spelled out the company's position. During the interview, Smith claimed that OpenOffice.org, the open-source alternative to Microsoft's own Office suite, violates nearly four-dozen patents. Smith did not specify the patents Microsoft believes have been violated by the application collection, nor did a follow-up statement that a Microsoft spokesman issued today.

OpenOffice, which is available in editions for both Windows and Linux, can be downloaded and used for free. A version written for Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X Aqua interface should be ready for beta testing later this year. Microsoft Office 2007, meanwhile, comes in versions for Windows and Mac OS X and is priced starting at $149.

"This is an extraordinary and desperate act," said Suarez-Potts, who works at Collaborative Network Technologies Inc. in Canada. "I think it will backfire. Microsoft's using a shotgun against open source."

Suarez-Potts said he saw evidence of the scattershot approach in Microsoft's focus on GPLv3, Version 3 of the Free Software Foundation's General Public License. A Microsoft spokesman today said, "The latest draft of the GPLv3 attempts to tear down the bridge between proprietary and open-source technology that Microsoft has worked to build with the industry and customers."

But OpenOffice doesn't even use the GPL license, Suarez-Potts noted. "We use the LGPL," he said, referring to the GNU Lesser General Public License.

Previously, the only head-butting between Microsoft and OpenOffice.org has been over document formats, with the former pushing its Open XML and the latter promoting the open-source Open Document Format for Office Applications.

"Incredible and amazing -- those are the words I have for this," Suarez-Potts concluded.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:51 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 3:52 PM EDT
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Looks like a bobcat... or maybe a pussycat named bob...
Mood:  crushed out
Now Playing: 'Sniffing the Old Chisselin' Trail' Tracker noses into a pile of information. (Cowboys and Indianas)
Topic: Pervasive Computing


Branding by Bell
Color me Contented

First, this RagingBull VCSY board post by POSCASHFLOW

By: POSCASHFLOW
15 May 2007, 12:52 PM EDT
Msg. 185256 of 185261

Speaking of Virtualization ...............................

Verizon believes in it also!!!!!!

Participating in Virtual Job Fair Can Lead to Real Career Opportunities at Verizon

Job Seekers Can Take Part in the First-Ever 'Second Life' Job Fair to Apply for a Variety of Positions From Network Engineer to Fiber-Optic Technician
May 15, 2007: 11:22 AM EST

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NYTU13415052007-1.htm

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

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Then this:

Maw! Where's the teat pullers?  Bessy Lynn's bellowing bad and I cain't find the battery heated teat pullers.

They's in the drawer next to the nightstick, Walter. Dammit you'd be taken over by termites if I didn't put your wood leg in the pantry.

That cow is in bad need of milkin' and I cain't pull so much as a frozen fuzzy without my... oh... here they is. Nevermind! I'll be back with breakfast...

tromp tromp tromp tromp ...

click

...and today's farm report is brought to you by Fuzzy's Wuzzies. If you aren't happy with the way the day is going today, drift back to yesteryear dreaming of whut used to be in your Fuzzy Wuzzy bubblebath and toiletty water....

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Well, Regis, I thought they pointed the same direction all the time...
ha ha ha

Uh... noooo... hellooo.. they point the direction you're walking!
ha ha ha ha

Dammit you nitwit, I know that. What I mean is how do they get twisted around like that?

Usually bargain basement underwares...
ha ha ha ha ha 

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... hog bellies are rubbing the dirt... chittlin prices have dropped to an all time low and sausage is being sold for what used to pass as sandwich meat....

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... of the USDA recommends serving your children the food first before you offer it to customers. That way, your customers will be assured of having a nutritious meal without fear of anti-freeze poisoning...

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... in other words, folks with such skills as Network Engineer to Fiber-Optic Technician will be able to find what you need in this first ever Second-Life fair ... why? most likely because those are the folks who've been using the development to buildout systems in place in their parent companies... namely IBM and Verizon and Second-Life...

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...tromp tromp tromp tromp 

I had to bring the cow in the house because the teat pullers got froze up. Want a biskit, Bessy Lynn? Heh heh. That's funny. Did you hear that maw? I said 'Want a biskit Bessy Lynn?' and everybody knows cows don't eat biskits. Make her a green omelet and some of that pet pig we had last Friday.

We outta eggs? I'll go squeeze a chicken or two.

tromp tromp tromp tromp ...

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... thaaaaat's right folks! Mad Hatter's Day bash with all out in the parking lot and no plinking at the salesmen allowed! That's right folks, this going out of business bonanza by Gargantuan Garbage Beat and Bash is going to be a blow-out. Yessirree biggest butt-bringing in the history of the tri-county area. You'll have to go as far as Nugsville to find a finer lineup of stars...

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:55 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 3:02 PM EDT
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When he pulled that pin I said 'Throw it stupid!' but he just stood there.
Mood:  spacey
Now Playing: 'At Opryland' Singers regail audience with tales of country-deep high jinks and hilarity. (Family Tragedy)
Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

I know what you're thinking Pilgrim. You're saying "How can this dinky no-nothing company cause all this pandelirium?" Well, consider this: Jeff Davison (inventor of the XML Enabler Agent patent and the Emily VHLL pending patent) and Aubrey McAuley (inventor of the massive affiliation Web OS patent) and Aluizo Cruz (inventor of the image transmission by single optical fiber patent) have thrown in with the man, Richard Wade (current CEO of Vertical Computers) who worked early financial networks as a computer realm (with Duty Free Shoppers founder Charles Feeney of General Atlantic) relying on Luis Valdetaro's knowledge (creator of the tech for the first transcontinental mainframe networks)...

And you nitwits want to know "How do this be?"?

Are you all stupid as a post? We're up to around 600 viewers here now. In 2000 the number was more like 20,000. Why? Because even the most marginally knowledged traders and investors in 2000 knew the power of XML because it was splased over every magazine page available. These folks buying the stock understood what XML could do back then.The larger mass of investors and traders in technologies today wouldn't know what XML can really do any better then they would be able to recognize a Vietnamese vegetable peeler isn't a surgical instrument.

Fools and blind.

There are only a tiny handful who actually believe Vertical is capable of surviving past month. It's been that way for years since the company's image was hammered into the ground by a relentless team of purposeful naysayers and gopher boppers.

I do believe Mister Ballmer is a believer now. Or else he would be dragging Vertical back through the briars in the news... I wager MSFT won't breathe a word of VCSY's existence. Know why? All those knowlegeable investors and traders out there who were ripped off by a crush on their diamond-to-be would be no-doubt surprised to find VCSY is still alive and with vitality enough to latch on to Steve Ballmer's ankle like a hamhock and not let go until the house comes down.

In Mister Ballmer's thinking he can cling to the long-range view that if he can get patents declared invalid (across the board, Steve? Really? That's an optimisic projection on your part, no?) VCSY's claims against him (he's the guy in charge so it's all in his lap) will evaporate.

Not so, Pilgrim. Not so.

The legal system will have to answer Vertical as to their claim at having been violated as to money-making opportunities (while Microsoft sold billions in .Net projects) while the legal regime in question was fully in force.

In other words, Mister Ballmer, thievery is not excused when you've lost those thieving fingers in a garbage disposal. Sympathy and a hook to hang it on? OK maybe that. But I'll wager you'll be using that hook to fend off the residue of angered shareholders calling you out to explain why you pounded their company into the ground and took their money with it. Tick Tick Tick...

It's the Tock you don't want to hear. 

You see, it's not the 300 reading here now. It's the 20,000 who read this claptrap in 2000 who will all realise with a sudden start just how right Portuno was all that time... and just who's been eating their pie all these years under their noses.

Anger. The one thing a little money doesn't always work against. A LOT of money, maybe. But it will take a barge full of money to assuage the anger of those who owned VCSY stock in 2000 onward who were discouraged and urged to sell by the voices supporting the Vertical take down.

Where are those people? I think they're positioned horizontal right about now. DUCK!


Duck and Cover
Color me Neked

Patience is a virtue. Patience virtualizes all of life.

May 14th, 2007

What should Microsoft do about the 235 “free software” patent violations?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:45 am
Categories: Microsoft, Legal, Linux
A lot of pixels have been devoted to a story by Fortune Magazine (CNN coverage here) covering claims made by Microsoft that free software is violating 235 of the company's patents.
The core of the argument is summed up as follows:
The conflict pits Microsoft and its dogged CEO, Steve Ballmer, against the "free world" - people who believe software is pure knowledge. The leader of that faction is Richard Matthew Stallman, a computer visionary with the look and the intransigence of an Old Testament prophet.
 
Caught in the middle are big corporate Linux users like Wal-Mart, AIG, and Goldman Sachs. Free-worlders say that if Microsoft prevails, the whole quirky ecosystem that produced Linux and other free and open-source software (FOSS) will be undermined.
 
Microsoft counters that it is a matter of principle. "We live in a world where we honor, and support the honoring of, intellectual property," says Ballmer in an interview. FOSS patrons are going to have to "play by the same rules as the rest of the business," he insists. "What's fair is fair."
There's also a breakdown of the alleged violations given:
  • Linux kernel - 42 violations
  • Linux graphical user interfaces - 65 violations
  • Open Office - 45 violations
  • Email apps - 15 violations
  • Misc - 68 violations
If suing was on the cards, rest assured that there wouldn't be this kind of banter going onDespite the breakdown of alleged violations, Microsoft still refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed,.  Many involved in open source communities have asked Microsoft to do this but the company is probably unwilling to take this step for fear of generating a tidal wave of challenges.
First off, let's clear up one thing here.  Microsoft is not interested is suing.  It's already declared such action as being a non-starter as it would "get in the way of everything we were trying to accomplish in terms of [improving] our connections with other companies, the promotion of interoperability, the desires of customers."  If suing was on the cards, rest assured that there wouldn't be this kind of banter going on.
 
Now here's a question for you.  What should Microsoft do about this?  It seems to me that they have three options open to them:
  • Ignore the situation and let the issue slide (effectively donating the patents to the open source community)
  • Demand royalties or enter into licensing agreements
  • Do nothing in the interim but keep an eye on the situation
It's clear that Microsoft isn't going to ignore the issue and let it slide because the company wouldn't be engaging in this debate if that was the case (it's also not going to be a move that pleases Microsoft's stakeholders).  Same goes for doing nothing.  It seems that the only viable route for Microsoft to take is enter into discussions over possible royalties.
 
Some commentators are taking the view that this is signals a new Microsoft desperate to squeeze cash from Linux because its own business model is crumbling.  Given Microsoft's bottom line, this kind of statement is bordering on the ridiculous.  If Microsoft's business model is crumbling, other companies such as Apple, who have a far less muscular bottom line, must be in dire trouble (which they're not, of course).  Record quarterly profits aren't the usual sign of an eroding business model.
 
Some say that Microsoft needs to outline what the violations are and allow the open source community to code around the problems.  That's certainly a possible solution, but give me one reason why Microsoft should do this?
 
Some doubt the numbers.  I don't.  The open source movement is massive and with so much code being written, there are bound to be patent infringements.  As Robert McLaws wrote:
Let's face it. In the world of software development, everyone copies everyone. And Linux is, at it's heart, a decentralized operation to build software that competes against Windows by mimicking it, directly or indirectly. It may even have been done accidentally, which isn't terribly farfetched. Accident or not, it happened, and that's all well and good. But if you're an open source developer, and you think that duplicating someone else's technology doesn't open you or your organization up to liability, then you're an idiot.
The landscape has changed significantly.  Back when open source was the domain of geeks with high ideals, it's easy to overlook patent violations (in fact, it would be nuts to even waste too much time worrying about it).  But now that you have massive companies built on a foundation of open source, open source is big business and the rules have changed.
What are your views on the conflict between Microsoft and the open source movement?
 
I think VCSY should press their case to the end for hostile and damaging infringement by a much larger foe for the years .Net was marketed without recognition of Davison/McAuley knowledge.
 
They should do so while participating with relationships with IBM and Verizon. I mean... it's going to hurt Microsoft more to sue for their patent infringement claims than it's going to hurt VCSY. What have we got to lose (new reader I speaketh as a very minor shareholder)?
 
Microsoft has at risk the commercial goodwill of every company and country that will be encumbered by their dallying and delay since 2004 to prove out these allegations of 'infringement'. Ballmer has cried 'wolf' each time VCSY legal claims close in (look at the timeline and see).
 
He's had and taken plenty time to prove out his 'evidence' against Linux producers.
 
VCSY's proof is in the marketing material and demos from prior to 2004 which mysteriously pops up and goes away periodically in Microsoft technology discussions.
 
Please allow Vertical a similar period to unveil their evidences, ok skeptical world?
 
VCSY just started putting out the proof after being dragged through a pretentious and outlandish legal fight by Chinadotcom(CDC)/Ross Systems which resulted only recently in CDC/Ross submitting to a judge presided settlement (a NEW judge and not the original recalcitrant bench bubbler).
 
VCSY can easily continue the patent infringement claims while marketing their wares in the proprietary AND open-source realm.
 
Use the best of both worlds. 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:01 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 2:03 PM EDT
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Every time I tried to buy a bag of groceries, these thugs would poke a hole in the bag.
Mood:  accident prone
Now Playing: 'For The Record' Friendly chats recorded for posteriors. (Family Court)
Topic: The Sneaky Runarounds

This is from recy43 at ProgrammersHeaven where he is called ShellShock. The top one will be erased no doubt but you have it here so you can use it as a yardstick to check his veracity and oil.

http://www.programmersheaven.com/c/authorpage.asp?AuthorID=168102 

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Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-5-15 10:23:07
Shellshock proved he's tepe because tepe kicked into high gear immediately after I goaded him on his personal page at ProgrammersHeaven regarding the FO patent. He couldn't resist the bait. [That's right, folks, Shellshock aka recy43 and other usernames, still can be faithfully found lurking PHeaven even thought his "reason for living" had been terminated from the ProgrammersHeaven scene around April 25, 2007... a couple days after VCSY announced they had sued Microsoft for patent infringement. Isn't this getting interestingk?]to post.
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-5-13 12:31:07
Another day another day more right.
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-22 5:49:42
Good Morning Marky ...I see you took the day off harassing everyone . Turns out that Port was right . We are gonna have a few nice hidden contracts . Starting with the bigboy, Microsoft . Very interesting , don t you think . I just wanted to use your personal page to thank all the boys at PH for all their work in digging up all the info on VCSY . How do you feel that we could all be rich soon ???? Are you gonna do any chasing on Monday ....Well anyway have a great Sunday off to church I go . I promise to continue to pray for you .....EXPLORE
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This is from my page at ProgrammersHeaven. I think you can get an idea of the twisted sense of injustice seething in this one individual: 

http://www.programmersheaven.com/c/authorpage.asp?AuthorID=118252

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Posted by: ShellShock 2007-5-15 13:23:56
You are a priceless gem, Sir Nutbag. Extremely flawed, and always wrong, but priceless. So your latest prediction is that vcsy is going to singlehandedly bring down msft, and the 20,000 old shareholders of vcsy will recognize your brilliance and praise you for your vision and hard work, over the last 8 years. ...and all of this has happened, yet even today, no one knows about these earth shattering developments, except the lucky few that follow your sainted word, on RB and your masterbating blog.What a find for those "chosen ones". Damn, you make me laugh,dude!
Posted by: ShellShock 2007-5-15 5:46:21 delete
So now I'm tepe? I always have an advantage that no one else has, Porty. Literally every assumption you have ever made about me is wrong....and every assumption you have ever made about vcsy turned out to be wrong too. I admire your consistancy and laugh at your stupidity. Let's both loook for those "hidden" contracts and revenues in the latest and late financials, shall we. I think they found them in the trunk of the working F/O patent model. lmao
Posted by: ShellShock 2007-5-10 5:52:56 delete
How many times have you threatened me with prison and claimed I am a criminal? Why aren't I in jail? It's only been 5 years. Just more Porty bs. It is amazing how you can post an endless series of lies and not have it phase you. Absolutely nothing you predicted has ever happened and, in 8 years, you still don't see it......so on to the next theory that will be proven wrong......vcsy and microsoft.2M for 4 years of absolute bs in the Ross suit. Very stealthy and my oh my, how the shareholders have gained from those wasted 4 years. LMAO Weren't there suppose to be a few more zeros in that settlement according to you, Sir Windbag? Don't let your latest mis-step stop you from inventing more fantasy DD.
You can't post a message in your own guestbook, stupid!

 

Here's some additional stuff on ShellShock's personal page. Perhaps it will give you some background and a way to dissect what certain posters are writing... you have to dissect those posts like frogs. 


Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-21 14:47:33
I guess now the first shoe is on the floor. I wonder what the next one will be. CDC down Microsoft to go and others. If Microsoft used such technology in Vista Longhorn or Viridian, they won't be able to drag this out as it is necessary to address the alleged infringement before the software goes out for beta. How long is Microsoft willing to delay releasing their software to the public?
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-21 5:59:46
Well I guess you have to give Port his due ...You have to know how big this is . Are you still giving your phone number out . You did that back in the early years . You were crazy back then and crazy now . I really think law enforcement should now about your tendancies . I ll tell you the truth , and I am being totally honest . You need to talk to someone . To do what you do with the Hate you have is sad . If your benefits don t cover a shrink let me know , out of kindness I will get you on Dr. Phil .. We can have me Port Bave ,Sirius and all of PH there, plus all the people you have harrassed in the past there to help you . Alright little guy .. Just looking to help you out ...LOL EXPLORE
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-20 19:16:47
Looks like the VCSY lawsuit against Microsoft for infringement against the VCSY/McAuley SiteFlash patent has 'shellshock' in just plain 'shock'. What a fool to fight for so long only to have all his rants unravel one by one.
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-20 8:26:38
We know he's constructing an alibi now but I wonder what he was constructing all those years while he tried to stop public discussion about VCSY?
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-20 8:25:12
explore - his construcive activity spans a very long time. Here is one alias we know he used on RagingBull for 4 or 5 years: http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?board=VCSY&member=recy43
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-19 13:40:04
Do you really think anybody cares what you say . Go do something construcrive . Sad case for a human being . I don t know you and really don t care about anything you do . LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-19 13:03:48
So, it's not personal explore. He just hates VCSY so much he wants go gnaw and denigrate anyone associated with it. Then he'll have a psychiatrist certify him as overly infatuated with the VCSY model and the judge will let him off. I think that was 'back in the day' when message boards and various communication media were less important for investor socialization. It's a much bigger problem today and the politicians know that. Unfortunately for recy, he doesn't know that.
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-19 13:03:36
I tell you explore like I've told lots of people. Recy's setting up his defense by demonstrating he's obsessed with some irrational need to badger and harangue people (all people it seems. The obsession first started with me although I never remember him accosting me directly - it was always mirror / reflexxxshun who ran the point until Ross and Arglen lost and Gyselen/Arglen settled with VCSY in 2002. Then recy aka shellshock came to the fore to pick up the slack. Unfortunately his posts are gone from Raging Bull so that is a short-term lack in resource until needed.
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-19 11:16:25
Port he has to be up to something . He is getting his last bit of I m right and your wrong stuff out . He knows what s going on . He can t come to the conclusion that eventually all the work or most of the work you did will come to fruition . My buddy lancermole called him . He is still giving his number out .. He sad he is one interesting character . I actually don t read most of his stuff ..Just print it and file it ...You would have loved Wade if you were at the trial ....EXPLORE
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-4-17 8:35:04
What's the matter explore? Is shellshock aka recy43 badgering you wih all kinds of insane stuff? I guess the webmaster doesn't mind his kind of language after all. Seems they rip our butt for something and he sambas through here dropping refuse and decay and nobody seems to care. Have you seen some of the stuff he puts on my userpage? Take a look. I've deleted the latest but I'm sure he'll soil it again as soon as he finds out his stuff is deleted. Do you know he's been up to this for over five years? Unbelievable. Why would anyone do this unless they were involved in something they needed to be legally immune from?
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-14 10:45:49
Just remember the word HARASSMENT ...If you think I m kidding keep on doing what your doing . You are one sick puppy... EXPLORE
Posted by: explore98 2007-4-5 3:26:21
Watch me get upset . You have got to be kidding me . Don t flatter yourself . I have read half of what you have sent . I have printed everyone because there will be a harassment suit when Port s visions come to fruition . I have made money because of him . Say what you want , the man is smart in offering his opinions . You on the other hand are a CROOK .I am telling you to stop the harassment . Why are you so upset with Port . Because he has a vision he is sharing ....... EXPLORE
Posted by: Portuno_Diamo 2007-3-8 9:35:41
Hi recy. On behalf of all the VCSY longs I want to thank you for helping us hold together as a group for so many years. You know how useful a common enemy can be for folks with varied interests. We can certainly say you were the most common of all.
Posted by: lancermole 2006-2-4 18:03:18
Hi Shell- I'm relatively new to VCSY, with 515,000 shares bought in Jan. Next week, I hope to get to the million-share mark, so obviously I'm impressed with what I and several friends in the software biz have discovered about Vertical. There's a guy in town, Explore98, who has 8,000,000 shares at an average of 0.006. He's my son's soccer coach and a great guy- he told me 2 years ago to get out of SWYCQ.PK, but I didn't listen and had my head handed to me. The thing was a total scam and the guys who ran it are probably going to jail. So to me, Wade seems like the real deal. Explore has made a ton here trading back & forth, and he says it hasn't even started yet. His wife (talk about hot- and nice to boot- inherited quite a bundle last year and also has a few million shares for the kids' college fund (their son is on the football team and is talking with the U of Wisconsin about a scholarship). What can you tell me about VCSY? My email is lancermole@aol.com

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:39 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 5:26 PM EDT
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Seems like yesterday, doesn't it?
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Naked Amongst the Briars' Existentialist art film about angst in anticipation. (Farce)
Topic: VCSY

Peterd13 is referring to a time when XML knowledge was fairly common amongst tech investors and when what VCSY was saying and doing made a lot of sense to a lot of people. Now, that same company makes sense to only a few people... ahhhh those were the days.

But, then, these days are so much more affordable.

By: peterd13
14 May 2007, 11:28 PM EDT
Msg. 185240 of 185242
(This msg. is a reply to 184995 by DC-Steve.)

Steve,

Your quote from post # 184989:

"My point was that VCSY would go from pennies to multiple dollars .... (and) this increase will take place over a very short time. If it rose to $20+ which is reasonable given the scenario RR says is guaranteed, we're talking an increase of more than 100,000%. I'm pretty sure that would represent one of the biggest, fastest price increases in history in terms of both percentage and dollar value."


I'm sure you know that this stock has all ready done that, and much much more!!!

In November of 1999 Scientific Fuel Technology Inc. (now Vertical Computer, Inc.) traded for $.01 (you can look it up if you need to....) As we all know, only a few short months later (February, 2000) the price of the stock reached $122.50 (split adjusted - 6 1/8 X 20). In other words, $1,000.00 invested (100,000 shares) at the low became 2 million shares, and if sold at the high was worth $12,250,000.....

Absolute fact.....


peterd13

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:16 AM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12:27 AM EDT
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