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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Friday, 6 April 2007
When you're right, you're right.
Mood:  special
Topic: Chinadotcom and VCSY

I love it when things become clear. It's like watching a glass of stirred up mud precipitate out until there's only left an obvious smear of mud at the bottom of all that clarity. I wonder who spooned ditch bottom doo into the baby's koolaid?

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180976 

By: Sliver_Fox

06 Apr 2007, 01:03 PM EDT

 Msg. 180976 of 180978
(This msg. is a reply to 180975 by RapidRobert2.)

Thanks RR, we are on the same page.

Just wanted to hear reaction.

Poor bloke just had a problem and knew how to get a fix. He (or she) probably did not understand the ramifications of the action. Lucky that someone at Now Solutions caught it. Could have easily fixed the problem . . . just trying to be helpful.

Now the kitty is out of her cage. And she is roaring like a lion. Suspect sharp claws. JMHO.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Buy; LT Rating- Buy)


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:45 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 10 April 2007 1:11 PM EDT
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Termites in yer wooden leg.
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: Chinadotcom and VCSY

 It isn't enough to try to drive somebody to the ground. You have to live off their juices, too. That's the way it is in the bug eats bug world of  'in the grass' operation. It will be nice to finally get a chance to get on the hamburger under the picnic table.

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180964 

By: RapidRobert2

06 Apr 2007, 11:11 AM E

Msg. 180964 of 180969
(This msg. is a reply to 180957 by Sliver_Fox.) 

Sliver: It isn't about VCSY technology, it is about 'emPath' of NOW Solutions. The 'Asset Purchase Agreement' was very clear on returning ALL software held by Ross Systems to NOW Solutions and retaining NO part of 'emPath' for their own use or resale. A non-complete agreement was also in place. This isn't a question of a 'verbal' agreement.

The big money is from Ross keeping the maintenance fees they collected a year (plus) in advance and keeping it while NOW Solutions serviced the contracts. It has been represented that Ross gave huge discounts to get clients to pay in advance so they could keep the money. NOW Solutions and VCSY didn't know Ross was keeping the money and not adjusting the purchase price as they made collections or turning the money over to NOW Solutions. Also, Ross was suppose to give NOW Solutions support for the first year with free office space, supplies, etc., but after the year ended, NOW Solutions got a bill for the lease of over $11,000 that Ross didn't even pay up front, as the Asset Purchase Agreement detailed. A lot going on and I think VCSY proved their case against Ross. Even more money if awards for 'punishment' against Ross is awarded by the jury.

Therefore, when Ross retained the software and the CEO, Tinley, admitted under oath that Ross was using the software after the terms of returning it...that is a breach of the contract and IF Ross gave it to CDC for even more use...then many things kick in. We know CDC has an HR subsidiary and if VCSY can prove they are using 'emPath', the money just increased for damages.

Oh! Tinley admitted in his deposition that Ross was using the 'emPath' software in 2005...he later changed that to not having the correct date in his mind when he was questioned. And, the reason he gave for telling NOW Solutions in 2005 (the APA was done in February 2001) that Ross was still using 'emPath'....Well, it seems the software needed a 'fix' and he even asked NOW Solutions for tech help to fix it so they could continue to use it. Now, that is funny! He admitted Ross was using it in violation of the terms of the APA. I don't know what he said on the stand to the jury to cover this huge gap of admission.

Oh! And neither VCSY nor NOW Solutions were made available or had knowledge of a separate agreement that 'Arglen' and CEO, Gary Geyselen, had with Ross and was going to get an extra $600,000 for selling NOW Solutions after they bought it from Ross to VCSY...that was found out in discovery. And, if Webster, the CFO at Ross at the time, got a piece of that, more evidence of fraud by insiders.

The 'Tilt' is obviously for VCSY but we know anything can happen in a court but I still think VCSY will win and GET THE BUCKS!

Also, we will have the filing of the 10KSB next week, too. Then, we have news coming and also the announcement of the 'Investor Relations' firm that will represent VCSY...Much coming up quickly after the trial and 'STEALTH' will be HISTORY, I hear.

Have a Great Day!
RR
IMO
Ps: It ALL makes sense now. The info I had was a lil incorrect about the jury instructions. The instructions to the jury will happen next Wednesday or Thursday.

.

Later,
RR
IMO�
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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:29 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 6 April 2007 2:56 PM EDT
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Ruminating with RR
Mood:  cool
Topic: Chinadotcom and VCSY

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180975 

By: RapidRobert2
06 Apr 2007, 12:50 PM EDT

Msg. 180975 of 180977
(This msg. is a reply to 180973 by Sliver_Fox.)

sliver: "Mens Rea" wouldn't apply since the intent was to cover up having the software by Ross. It was a lapse of memory of one employee to ask for 'help' from NOW Solutions for a tech fix of the software. It wasn't just a 'state' of mind to use it and forgot it was against several agreements between Ross and VCSY/NOW Solutions. It was plainly a breach of contract to continue using the 'emPath' software by Ross and perhaps other things with the software.

They are responsible for the cover up and not returning the software to NOW Solutions within the time frame of the Asset Purchase Agreement, as written and understood by both parties with signatures.

So, if Ross was using the software, did they give it to CDC for more use and in violation of the non-compete agreement. The non-compete agreement also makes 'Mens Rea' a moot issue and not applicable in the case.

Next week is going to be the most interesting we have seen at VCSY!

RR
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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:27 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 6 April 2007 2:57 PM EDT
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Prognosis Negative
Mood:  down
Topic: Integroty

Another view of the current XML imbroglio for Microsoft.

Wired: 

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/04/microsoft_petit.html 

Friday, April 06, 2007

Microsoft Petition A Desperate Bid to Gain OOMXL Support

 Lacking community support for its much maligned OOXML file format, Microsoft decided earlier this week to fake it. In yet another bid to fast track the OOXML format for ISO certification, Microsoft has posted an online petition positing grassroots support for OOXML, which has thus far seen very little support outside the walls of Redmond.

Mark Taylor, the founder of the Open Source Consortium, tells ZDNet UK, “in the open-source world, there’s clearly a massive grassroots thing.” Taylor thinks that Microsoft is trying to apply the old adage if you can’t make it, fake it.

“One of the lessons Microsoft has been trying to learn from open source is that — but they have to fake it.” Taylor argues that if there were actually any grassroots support of the OOXML petition it would have been created “ages ago.”

OOXML has been criticized since its inception and with more and more U.S. states moving toward the existing OpenDocument Format over OOXML, Microsoft is facing an increasingly uphill battle with OOXML.

An earlier attempt at posting an open letter to the open source community backfired with most critics dismissing it as whining while one former Microsoft employee went so far as to call the letter “professionally embarrassing.”

Thus far the online petition is receiving pretty much the same reaction.

Marino Marcich of the OpenDocument Format Alliance told Compiler earlier this month that with over twenty countries objecting to the OOXML proposal, “the road ahead for OOXML will by no means be easy.”

Taylor also suggested to ZDNet that Microsoft was “in major trouble trying to get Open XML pushed through” and the petition “shows their worry.”

Posted by Scott Gilbertson 11:25:28 AM in standards

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:09 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 6 April 2007 1:09 PM EDT
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What it is when the dude drop the bag...
Mood:  quizzical
Topic: Chinadotcom and VCSY
E plurus post dictum mons publicus poundum downamus flickdis boogeris

E Pluribus Sputum:


resource: http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/CDBD25E2-0C22-4452-89C87F8A413EE73B/alpha/M/

mens rea

The mental component of criminal liability. To be guilty of most crimes, a defendant must have committed the criminal act (the actus reus) in a certain mental state (the mens rea). The mens rea of robbery, for example, is the intent to permanently deprive the owner of his property.



Having done so before I know the concept of mens rea may be used as an offense or a defense. The 'no doubt he intended to rip off Aunt Sally's piggy bank' assessment can flip over to a 'nobody's that stupid' view when faced with someone committing a crime and doing something as ludicrous as calling the victim and asking for help with problems the 'guilty party' is having with the projected ripoff.

Posters on message boards could use that defense to mitigate the fact they spend hours every day battering the forums of specific subjected stocks with no reasonable goal implied in the posts. Of course the 'nobody's stupid' toe grip on the highwire of criminal defense can set up oscillations in the wire until the judge's mind is thinking 'Wait a minute... NOBODY's THAT stupid.' and the opinion swings sharply toward discounting all that the defendant has to say regarding the 'addiction' or the 'obsession' or the 'altruistic avenger' within the defendant's apparent nefarious intent and actions.

So NOBODY'S that stupid? Stupid like a rabbit.

 

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:51 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 6 April 2007 12:55 PM EDT
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When whispers wither and the shoutings begin.
Mood:  a-ok
Topic: Chinadotcom and VCSY

I think I just peed my bippies.

 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180966

By: RapidRobert2

06 Apr 2007, 11:22 AM EDT

Msg. 180966 of 180972
(This msg. is a reply to 180961 by Sliver_Fox.)

Sliver: For VCSY: Richard Wade, Steve Gunn, Marianne Franklin, Luiz Valdetaro, the CFO at the time (I forget his name) Ken Orgain, and one or two others.

For Ross, Robert Webster (CFO at the time, now a consultant), Tinley, CEO at the time..they were called out of order during the plaintiffs case. I don't know who else is left at Ross to put on unless they bring in Gary Geyselen (Arglen) and I don't think they would be that foolish to bring that guy in as a witness, VCSY lawyers could rip into him and he might even risk criminal charges if he said too much. Wade would love it, though.

Naw! No one will believe they just 'got' the software to use and not have to worry about paying for it. Besides, CDC would be responsible, Ross is a subsidiary and Tinley was the CEO of CDC for a few short months until he left under a cloud when CDC was also announcing they had crooks inside the company. NO way can CDC get around knowing they should not be using 'emPath'...if,indeed,they are using it to this day.

Later,
RR
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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:29 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 6 April 2007 1:39 PM EDT
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Thursday, 5 April 2007
This Speaks Volumes
Mood:  incredulous
Topic: Integroty

Do I need to add any comment to this? I think not. 

Microsoft criticized for Open XML petition
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6173625.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
Company urges fast-track standardization of Office Open XML; open-source advocates say Microsoft is worried rivals will gain too much ground.
By David Meyer
Special to CNET News.com
Published: April 5, 2007, 8:06 AM PDT

An online petition posted by Microsoft to fast-track the standardization of its Office Open XML document format masks the company's concern over the procedure, according to a leading open-source advocate.

The petition is an attempt to make it appear that Open XML has "pseudo-grassroots" support, argues Mark Taylor, the founder of the Open Source Consortium.

"In the open-source world, there's clearly a massive grassroots thing," Taylor told ZDNet UK on Thursday. "One of the lessons Microsoft has been trying to learn from open source is that--but they have to fake it. If there was any grassroots support behind it, the time to have done (the petition) would have been ages ago."

The petition, which was uploaded to Microsoft's U.K. site on March 29, asks businesses to show their support for the Open XML format being fast-tracked through the standardization process at the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). The format is integral to Office 2007, but Microsoft is pushing it as an international open standard for documents, spreadsheets and presentations.

"We already have an international standard, the OpenDocument format, and governments are increasingly adopting it," said Taylor on Thursday. "Having a second standard is utterly unnecessary."

Taylor also speculated that the timing of the release of the petition--which was shortly before the Easter and Passover holidays--was intended to make resistance to the campaign less likely. Despite the recent advancement of Open XML onto a new stage of the standardization process, Taylor also suggested that Microsoft was "in major trouble trying to get Open XML pushed through" and the petition "shows their worry."

That view was echoed by Rufus Pollock, the director of the Foundation for Free Information Infrastructure (FFII), who told ZDNet UK that Microsoft was pushing for the fast-track because it feared the spread of the OpenDocument Format through the popular OpenOffice package. Pointing out that the specifications for Open XML run to 6,000 pages, he suggested that fast-track standardization would be inappropriate because there were "a lot of concerns about what might be in there," such as patents.

"An over-complex proposal being pushed through is not going to be good for anyone, other than perhaps Microsoft," Pollock said.

David Meyer of ZDNet UK reported from London.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:54 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 5 April 2007 2:58 PM EDT
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BIG Flaw BIG Problem
Mood:  chatty
Topic: Integroty

What Microsoft says and what Microsoft wants you to believe are two different things altogether.

 And YES I'm going to post the entire article. Read it and sober up.

 

Microsoft SaaS plan has image problem
Software giant struggles to keep up with Web-based competitors in SaaS market
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/04/04/HNmicrosoftsaas_1.html
By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service
April 04, 2007

Microsoft plans to make expanding its SaaS (software as a service) strategy a priority in the next 12 months, but the company continues to suffer an image problem as it struggles to prove that it can compete in this new services market.

Earlier this week, Tim O'Brien, a director in Microsoft's Platform Strategy Group, defined Microsoft's plan for the SaaS market as a "move to the middle," as outlined in detail last June by Microsoft Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie at the company's TechEd conference in Boston. At the show, Ozzie said Microsoft's plan to roll out services -- many branded with the "Live" moniker -- will complement its existing software portfolio rather than be purely an SaaS play.

O'Brien reiterated that strategy to the IDG News Service, saying Microsoft will continue to move deeper in the hosted services space, but not at the expense of its extensive software platform. He said that even pure-play SaaS companies such as Salesforce.com see the need for both software and services, citing that company's client-based Salesforce.com offering designed so that customers can access information from their hosted CRM service even when they are offline.

"It's not an either/or world," O'Brien said. "That's where we see things headed and that's where we're headed with platform capabilities."

Microsoft plans to add services across its entire software portfolio to achieve several goals, O'Brien said. One is to enable its existing software to run on different clients but provide a similar user experience, which it has already begun to do with products such as Exchange Server, he said.

Microsoft has offered Exchange as messaging software on the back end that feeds to the Outlook client on PCs for several years, but recently it has been expanding the capabilities of Exchange through both multiclient capabilities and hosted services. Users now can access services running on Exchange through the Web and on mobile devices.

Microsoft also hosts Exchange Server for companies that don't want to purchase and install the software themselves, and offers its own hosted services based on Exchange, such as e-mail filtering, archiving, and anti-spam.

Other goals for its software-plus-services strategy are to give customers more ways to deliver their own hosted services and enable them to build custom services that combine pieces of different applications both inside and outside the firewall, a scenario known as SOA, O'Brien said.

Microsoft's hosted services plan is not new. Companies such as Salesforce.com, Yahoo, and Google have built their businesses on the hosted services they offer and are promoting their products as platforms on which third parties can build their own services.

While those companies have taken full advantage of the Web, Microsoft has consistently had trouble defining its strategy to expand beyond server and desktop software to truly offer hosted services. Though Microsoft has been making significant investments in services and actually has an extensive SaaS portfolio under its belt, it is not considered the leader in the SaaS market.

One problem is that when Microsoft introduced its Live services in November 2005, it seemed mostly like a consumer play. The company rebranded some of its existing MSN properties -- such as MSN Search and MSN Messenger -- with the "Windows Live" name and added new services.

But now it's becoming clear that Microsoft plans to brand both consumer and business services under the "Live" moniker. For example, offerings such as Windows Live Search and Xbox Live online gaming community are directed at consumers, while CRM Live and Office Live are aimed at business customers.

At the same time, the company offered Office Live, which is somewhat of a misnomer. Office Live is not actually a hosted version of Microsoft's popular Office product, but according to Burton Group Research Director Peter O'Kelly, it's a hosted version of Microsoft's SharePoint collaboration software bundled with some hosted small-business applications.

"That can be confusing," he said, especially because Microsoft now considers SharePoint, once a stand-alone product, part of its Office software suite.

Furthermore, Microsoft has given similar names to other hosted business services, which also doesn't help present a clear big picture for its services plan. The company offers both Hosted Exchange and Exchange Hosted Services, which are business products that do two different things.

The different names used by Microsoft's array of Exchange hosted services will only add to the confusion, O'Kelly said.

The fundamental problem with all of this is that Microsoft is trying to identify a varied strategy under one "software plus services" umbrella, and it's really not that simple, Gartner's Smith said.

"I think they have to figure out a better way to explain it," he said. "There is a story in there that makes sense and there is some really good stuff that they're doing, but they are having a very hard time explaining what that is."

O'Brien's comments Monday did little to clarify the situation, especially since he would not go into specifics about exactly how Microsoft plans to expand its software and services strategy in the next year. But it's likely the company will continue to refine and attempt to clarify its image as it seeks to steal both services and advertising revenue from its younger and more nimble competitors. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 10:35 AM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:38 AM EDT
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Wednesday, 4 April 2007
Oh yeah Oh yeah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
Mood:  irritated
Topic: Integroty

 Some people talk and talk and talk and other people get things done. 

 Those of you who look toward Microsoft for cutting edge moves in software you need to go to the local restaurant and see what they're using for knives. Your market leadership and technology return on investments ain't none too sharp.

 The two hot topics in efficient SaaS (Software as a Service) is autonomic management (self managing server systems) and governance management (self policing server systems).

 Let's take a look at the two. First we'll look at the term 'autonomic' as it applies to Microsoft.

This is Microsoft talking about autonomic systems management. The date is March 2003:
http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid1_gci886334,00.html
Microsoft to map out autonomic computing strategy
By Margie Semilof, Senior News Writer
17 Mar 2003
(excerpt)
Industry experts have been waiting for Microsoft to publicly discuss its strategy for autonomic computing. IBM Corp. and Sun Microsystems Inc. are among the vendors who have such plans in place.

If you google microsoft + autonomic you'll find a nice book but most of what Microsoft talked about in that arena was back in 2003 and nothing since then.

And news? Uhhhhh... try google microsoft + autonomic news. Feast your ever loving eyes on the vast nothingness.


Then we will look at one MSFT competitor in IBM. Where is Microsoft's competitor IBM? Here's just one example of what they are doing now.
http://www.itnewsonline.com/showstory.php?storyid=9232&scatid=8&contid=1#
IBM Opens New Autonomic Computing Technology Center in Bangalore
IT News Online Staff
2007-04-03
That was this week.

Google IBM + autonomic news and now ask yourself where has Microsoft been all these years? Why are they so behind and why are they not even now making so much as a splash in the subject?

 OK so that was 'autonomic' computing. It's not a buzzword and it will define the degree to which your computation resources are affordable and reliable as services. Such affordable reliability can be provided at any level as good scalable software is wont to provide.

 That or your applications and operating systems will have to run in human hands.

 Good luck. 

 Then let's talk about the subject of governance management.

 Here's Microsoft's triumphant entry into the governance arena:

http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid1_gci1249438,00.html
Microsoft systems management to enter governance fray
By Christina Torode, Senior News Writer
29 Mar 2007

 Now do a google of IBM + governance. Hey look... even the microsoft PR is in the mix LOL

 Now honestly folks. Who are you going to believe?

 Which do you believe has a horse in the autonomic management arena? Microsoft? or their competitors?

 Which do you believe has a horse in the governance management arena? Microsoft? or their competitors?

 So could you please explain to me just how ANY technologically savvy developer or designer or architect or manager or journalist still believes anything Microsoft says?

 Of course the business types will couch their opinions in 'good MSFT's holding back' 'wait for the market to come to you'.

 But... really? You folks would commend the job Microsoft management has been doing all this time do you? That's interesting. There really ARE koolaid drinkers out there.

 Uhhh guys you can't be serious with a two, three, four, five year failure to produce in key areas to compete when they HAD RESOURCES IN PLACE TO COMPETE and you're going to spin that as a 'good' thing.

 Heh heh heh. Wow. And they think I hang on the hookah a little too long.

 Holding back and letting a market develop and making the other players eat their mistakes and coming in from behind is one thing. But how long is all that supposed to take when you've been working on it for five years already?

 The competitors are managing to field their solutions as they emerge out of their development testbeds and apparently are being very enthusiastically received where ever they go.

 And you guys haven't even gotten off the porch. Is this a tortoise and the hare thing? You think you can run that fast when the tortoise is touching the finish line? Is this some kind of an expensive joke?

 $20 billion in R&D over 3 years and they have ... what? Are they doing a better job now? We'll know in two, three, four years now won't we?

 If you ask me the folks who really take it from behind with this sort of 'business strategy' are the grunts out in the field using (or should I say NOT using in this instance) Microsoft tools and technology to achieve what (oops I did it again) I mean to NOT achieve the kinds of technological leaps their colleagues in other houses do.

 Why would anyone want to stunt their career usefulness so much? Do they think they will work at Microsoft forever? Will there BE a Micrososoft still around to support their careers? I suppose there will be something called a Microsoft but it is already a pale imitation of its past glories.

 If the corporate technology base is so grey and in shock now what amount of the remaining life and cash will have drained from the corporate body one year two years from now?

 (Ye gods I wax eloquent and apocalyptical.) 

 The workers take it in the end always being behind the learning curve and producing obvious copycat merchandise built out like some sort of Japanese post WW2 tin toy factory. They used to build battleships. It's hard to scale down to a wind up toy. Give 'em a break.

 Damn. Who blew these MSFT guys up? They're wandering around feckless in the ruins of an XML technology display and they're talking about how wonderful things are... while everyone else chronicles their devastation and shock.

 Don't like that allegory? try this one: Biggest brontosaurus in the entire software swamp and something like an electric fence keeps the poor baby in a very small yard.  What has the power to do that? Hmmmm Must have been that old devil 'the details'.

 Try making a view of your own. Any view you draw of Microsoft at this stage of the game is this: if you took away their money (they only have ~$30billion in the old cow - a billion hardly goes anywhere these days) and the established Office user base (under increasing marketing pressure to defect) and the Established Windows base (under increasing skepticism as to value in new products) what you have is a startup. And a not very efficient nor productive startup at that.

 I will wait patiently for the laughter to die down. You can't think while you're laughing at me, ok? This is important. Pay attention. You think I stand around here in this clown outfit all day long to recurve my scroliosis or something? I have been smoten by the emerods in my long suffering duties as pundidiot so I got a right to complain already.

 Prep H ain't gonna sooth my ills people. Fairness justice and the American Way whatever the hell that means these days. At least a reasonable facsimile thereof unto. 

 Microsoft acts now like a failed dotcom of the 2000 era.  Burning cash and posting PRs saying 'This time we're really in it big!'

 They're in it big alright. Pucketa squeak pucketa squeak pucketa squeak squeak squeak. KWIM?

 I can see you're still grinning but if you were to tabulate all that Microsoft has amounted to in terms of viable work for a company this size and their cash-burning rate one has to wonder what sort of movies will be made about the old dinosaur's teetering collapse into irrelevance before long.

 Remember hubris and deception? Remember the terrible toll such takes on integrity and viability? Don't believe that old school mold time religion moralistic crap? Think Jesus only saves and is too pacifist to braid a bigger whip? 

 HA Forget Vista. Deceptive marketing seems to have permeated all of Microsoft if you ask me. Let it run.

 There is no 'there' there. When you're standing on the 'X Marks the Spot' 'You are here' spot there's no 'here' here. Somebody is choking off Microsoft's ability to wield XML in a free and easy way and that's regardless all the work they 'say' they do in XML. Where it's obvious to the serious they are not even playing.

 Odd. Very very odd.

 Whatsamatta U Wiz? Nothing to sew up the web and the PC? Nothing to make your governance and autonomic efforts fruitful? Limited? Confined? Embunkered? Take the easy way out. Make me and many others rich. Buy a license for crying out loud.

Then you can drive down 101 like you're proud to be here... or there.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:14 AM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 4 April 2007 3:23 AM EDT
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Tuesday, 3 April 2007
Seven Sirens Sang Similar Sour Sweet Symmetry Songs
Mood:  lazy
Topic: VCSY

If I gets nervous I chucks my hotdog. So y'all stand back. 

 

 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180616

By: danfl_11
03 Apr 2007, 03:50 PM EDT

Msg. 180616 of 180638

Hear ye hear ye Rasta's complaint!!!
Not safe with me channeling around like a haint.
Get out of the others where you ain't.

*bbbsssvvveveevvtttttttttttt* *poop*

Dear Mary jo Foley,

regarding your report in
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=364

Here's how it is Mary Jo (Ya'll go get Bobby Joe and Baby Joe out of the street they's a car coming. Is that Mister Silverberg?) Microsoft had this thing called 'Silkroute', ok? VCSY had this thing most people call the 'XML Enabler'. Silkroute was patent pending and ended up patented in 2003 (I think - pretty sure but you have encyclopedias of information at your fingertips, hon. You can look it up. Or do you have an assitant for that? I need assistance with these kids. Can you baby sit some?) and VCSY's patent application for the claims that can be used to build something like the XML Enabler was in the pipeline. When VCSY's XML Enabler went up for examination the examiner at first said 'like SilkRoute' and no dice. Then the VCSY lawyers showed how SilkRoute is only a one-way direction XML transfer and VCSY is two-directional. Plus Silkroute is just a connector to make XML go from proprietary to XML. XML Enabler is an agent that is able to do ANYTHING in XML with full transaction functions and tracking and management and governance and anything else you want to plug in to the join between proprietary and XML and back.

Head hurts? Mine too.

As you can see the XML enabler is able to 'enable' proprietary data into XML but with all the different kinds of functions you might need to carry off that transfer legally. That's right it's kind of like a Sarbanes-Oxley transaction execution and tracking software device that can be put at any web tool location to record and audit the actions of the web page user. AJAX on steroids with a terminator skeleton. Look at the way IBM does like that with their IBM Web Data Collector and XML Bridge. Same same.

We don't see Microsoft showing anything like that except for AJAX and AJAX would probably still be a mystery meat and Microsoft still gluing longhorn together as far as XML is concerned if Lucovsky had not had a chair thrown thru his space. KWIM?

(That's right Miss Frisbee. Throwed a chair! My daddy woulda jerked me up two dress sizes if I done that. Ya'll don't throw rocks at Mister Silverberg's car! Put that brick down Jilly. Ya'll go watch TV. They's a new episode of Rin Tin Tin coming on.)

Now the moral of THAT story is that the treeforters (People that live at another web site and think they've died and gone to heaven because they aren't at Raging Bull if they don't need to go there. Kind of like Baptists in a mini-mart.) snooped around and found out that VCSY was going to be awarded a patent on the XML Enabler Agent (7,076,521). Well that was more than our little blabby mouths could take so we yelled and screamed about it and sure enough VCSY announced in a PR when they would be granted an allowance for patent 7,076,521. It happened to coincide with Vista being delayed for 'technical reasons' one week before the patent allowance was made public by VCSY. Any nitiwit reading RagingBull could have put two and two together during that time so it was easy to gain early information about it. More than likely it's not what VCSY wanted to happen because they never put out a PR about other patent allowance awards. We never said anything about any allowances before this one. Probably because we never found out about them.

So what am I saying? VCSy has a markup programming language called Emily. Suspicions are it is at the root of a programming language IBM GAVE NASA (just like IBM GAVE speech translation products to the government/military this week) to PROGRAM (A 'programming language' with only 200k words? Can you say Very High Level Language? VHLL?) PROGRAM, mind you, the controls for the James Webb Space Telescope. Check it out if you are interested in advanced languages. Check it out anyway because it's one of the ways all programs will come to be done one day. 'My' prediction.

Anyway back to Emily. Emily is in a class of programming langugages by itself. There are plenty of posts written about what it can do. Use one of these people around heya as a nexus for a new lexus... as it were. Sorry. Can't avoid the rhyme. It's like Tourette's Syndrome for attention.

Microsoft convinced (Somehow convinced I am sure because you would have to hold some pretty strong conviction to maintain this sort of view as articulated by the young man.) the examiner that because FrontPage has a patented claim for managing HTML files the XML file management embodied as some claims in Emily was prior art. Get it? HTML = XML as a 'markup programming language'. Sure. You're 'programming' a web page browser to represent your web page with HTML to link to other webpages of HTML to build a passive website. That? or: You're programming your webpages to have multiple characteristics and functionalities in concert with other functionally capable webpages as aggregated web-based applications in XML.

So the examiner ruled in favor of FrontPage. ???

But, you see, that puts Microsoft in a difficult position (My daddy used to called that the 'pointy pinchers' of life. Kind of like getting the kumkWats pecked by a bluejay. Hurts.) out in the open where people can argue points about technology as it really is and not accoring to the spin cycle on somebody's laundry machine.

So this kumkwat pinch they are in where they can't market Expression as a 'development' package because then they would have to explain how FrontPage can't be viewed as a 'development' package amongst the knowledge community without being laughed out of the auditorium. And here they are now turning around in public due to the outcry from their own development community. Hmmmm. Maybe Expression DOES do some functional work in XML. I think VCSY lawyers should be allowed to have a lookie loo.

I wonder why the about face? Guess they figure embarrassment now is worse than future tort by report. Because when Expression comes up against Emily there will be a very loud laughter heard throughout the Web 2.0 community and Microsoft intent will be full and fluffy under the see through shower curtain.

So it sure looks to me like they TRIED to sneak Expression out the door lowkeyed like back for designers and once developers saw they were manipulating some XML in those designer tools they had created the Microsoft developers cried out in their grief and XML tool famine (My grandpa's favorite Bible verse was 'Lo and behold I come quickly and I'm going to kick some crackerass when I do.' I don't know where exactly that is. Maybe Ekeleesiastees or something like 'at. Darlene take Baby Joe in the house and pick them crawdads off him and ya'll quit putting him in the ditch in mudbug season!) and Moses gave them 'Expression for developers kinda'.

What's going on Mary Jo? We can't see all the way in them big people's house on the hill. Somebody like you can I bet. Won't you please hep our poor information rationed brethren and find out do they or don't they? Can they make web applications with XML or canthey not. And if they can't can we just mail our Emily patent application back with the correct postage and all and they can get somebody WITH SOME FREAKING BRAINS AND A BUCKET TO PUT THEM IN to examine it please. Now, I'm not impuning no integrity here because Lord knows mines not exemplary. But we just had a trial that lasted 5 years in the hands of a judge who couldn't seem to make up his mind. Now we have an examiner who apparently doesn't know what the word 'programming' means.

Here's your chance Mary Jo. Prove me wrong. Do it for me. I'm tired of being right all the time. A life full of success without failure is like pecan pie without corn syrup. There's nothing compelling in there to hold the nuts together.

Prove all of us wrong. We see you're riding on the same carousel because your subjectivities all align so we can see up your youknowwhats. Didn't know you were such abold journalism major. Nobody knows why you got the brass ring but I see you been reaching the past few weeks and sure enough the horse you rode in on seems to be leaning most toward the post.

Come on Mary Jo. You can do it. Sure I'm flushing all your contacts under ground. That way we can tell the diff/delta (Delta Dawn whut's that flower you got on can it be a faded Rose from days gone byyeeeee. Who the hell is home? I thought all your friends were gone... something something something else hmmm mmmm mmmmmm) from the squirrels and the groudhogs. We eat squirrels around here so there is no public park. It's all woods.

Do I hear banjos in the distance?

Besides, I'm getting ready to pull the mask off before long anyway. Gonna hang up the spurs one more time. Get out of the saddle. Pop a top on a Getweiser and watch me some GPS enabled Nascar. Gonna go 'back to my roots' so to speak. Vroooom. The kids in this neighborhood can skin a hornytoad in less than three posts so they don't need no wisecracker making a show. My channeling days are a coming to an end. The professionals who don't exist on here are angry because they can't achieve their objective which was to dash this little piece of crockery to pieces. They didn't realize how big the crock really was. Some things you can kick over and not get stuff on your boots. Some things you kick over and you end up not only topping your boots but filling your mouth. It's a wise one who keeps the mouth shut whilst swimming toward a high point. Nod nod wink wink.

Sincerely,
Masta P

We now return you to our normally scheduled posting curriculum.



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