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a-ok8-Sep-07 01:18 pm by hross_bjorn
> Most of the technology people who read this board know what
> a startup tech company is like in stealth mode.
I AM a "technology person." VCSY.OB is not a startup tech company anymore. It *was* a startup tech company at least 8 years ago. Now it's just a washed-up has-been trying a Hail Mary Pass(tm).
VCSY.OB's current operation is not "stealth" mode--it's "we're going broke and have nothing to lose, so throw everything at a wall and see what sticks" mode. I've seen it many, many times, and I've seen the relevant companies basically dissolve in 99% of all cases. Trying to characterize its behavior as a "startup in stealth mode" is either dishonest or clueless on several levels.
8-Sep-07 11:18 pm and 8-Sep-07 11:30 pm by portuno_diamo
Well, gee, hoss - I thought I had not seen another mind quite so closed as mtgmark1, but, low and cornholed, I do believe another contender for chumpion has come into view.
I saw an article recently (on RB - maybe one of the Longs at RB can dig it up) saying a handful of startups that had their stocks collapsed or lost investing capital and went unlisted back during the dotcom bust (circa 2000 in case you weren't aware at that time) find TODAY a perfect storm for technology startups. So, how is it there is a time limit on running stealth OR startup?
But you see a failure in VCSY after reading all the extraneous information that's been dug up on the public internet for the past years.
Do tell.
But... what if?
If you knew today you could become a billionaire in ten years by remaining in secret operating posture (as long as a public company meets filing requirements to inform shareholders, I don't remember any rule saying a company has to feed the PR machine) would you (could you? Really?)?
Let's say you had a choice of putting your technology for sale to the public at a time when the largest competitors could take what you had (let's say you were waiting on a patent or two) so you could then move forward with protection of the law... (let's say you suspect said competitor was a crook and would steal your trade secrets [what they are if not patented] at first opportunity and bury the stealing by burying you in articles and advertising)... would you keep your operations secret?
And let's say you have people who want to use your technology but want to make sure you really own the stuff and can prove it by a court case or a settlement by your largest competitor... would you let them try, test out, develop their own work with your patent pending intellectual property? Would they want to pay? Or would they want to work with it on a 'pay you when you prove it's yours' basis (whatever your lawyer wants to call that kind of agreement)? Would you go along with that kind of plan?
And, if you could work it so not just one but several people who you can build a relationship with and trust will make the same agreement with the understanding that none of them can actually sell the stuff (they can field secret test versions as alphas and betas) until you do prove it's yours... would you?
If you could become a billionaire in 10 years by agreeing to that? Would you?
Or would you stay in your silly little trading job in the sweatshop while trying to make a few bucks in the “marketing” department dribbling out the swill the cue cards and scripts tell you to write about XYZ stock on message boards?
I think I would and could be as quiet as a mouse peeing on cotton. Cotton socks on giant feet.
And if you did make that sort of deal with companies with a relationship and they continued working with their products incorporating your technology on an evaluation and development basis, don't you think you would hold all of them to the same reveal date? And don't you think that, just to be fair, you would treat your biggest competitor and your biggest competitor's partner differently so the courts wouldn't view your efforts as anti-competitive?
You know, I have a bit of a problem with Apple and the way Apple is postured.
Sun has ZFS and so does Apple but Apple has a read only version of ZFS and Sun has a read/write version. And Sun and Apple are only fielding test versions of the products.
And then, Apple has a virtualization technology and Microsoft has a virtualization technology called Viridian and the odd thing is that both Apple and Microsoft delayed their operating system virtualizations on the same day... here's a timeline:
April 12, 2007 Apple Leopard delay to October announced
[Apple admits]
April 12, 2007 Microsoft Viridian delay to October announced
[virtualization]
April 13, 2007 Sun buys SavaJe IP
(which went dark in unexplained circumstances last year see Oct 17 2006)
April 18, 2007 VCSY sued Microsoft for infringement on US 6,826,744
So what do we see? Coincidence? Or a plan? An agreement for evaluation (of which nobody legally has to say a peep) and a wait for the property to be validated as to ownership?
Beats me. Mtgmark1 is supposed to be the financial whiz but I guess he's never heard about development on spec.
And I guess hoss forgets what a "five year plan" is. I guess he also requires all companies in secret development for longer than X days months years to give up on the day after his ... limit (gee, "hoss" how long should a company work before giving up? Hmmmm, sweety? Can you give us a figure? Can you give us a clue as to how you arrive at your conclusion?).
So, whatever you say recy. Yeah you right. Rage on, bro. Rage on. Just, do me a favor, will ya? Hang around until the day after VCSY proves ownership of the technology so you can be around for me to laugh in your face. Then you can drop dead or disappeared or de@#$%d. I don't give a flying frappe'.
sincerely,
the real portuno
