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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Tuesday, 24 April 2007
I seen one of them before and you can't get nothing out of it.
Mood:  lazy
Now Playing: 'The Way Things Are Seen' Exploration requires more than eyeballs and fingers.
Topic: VCSY / Baseline

Just a note to remind everyone how the rest of the world sees VCSY as a result of their having to work under cover and in stealth mode for years. The commentor assumes he has it all figured out based on a quick look at the company. Those of you who have been studying this company for long realize just how erroneous and blind the commentor is being but he's only reacting to what his senses and his thinking tell him. This is where the effectiveness of stealth lies; in being able to tailor your camouflage to fit your need. It's what made all the experts discount the technology and believe it would be easily dealt with when the time came.

Time has come today. 

Re:How long until...

(Score:5, Informative)
by john.r.strohm (586791) on Saturday April 21, @08:34AM (#18822983)
They may be praying that Microsoft will buy them. They appear to be in the process of imploding.

Their last 10-K contained a couple of zingers.

"As of the date of the filing of this Report, the Company does not have sufficient funds available to fund its operations, invest in additional resources for growth and repay its debt obligations. Therefore, the Company needs to raise additional funds through selling securities, obtaining loans or increase sales. The Company's inability to raise such funds or renegotiate the terms of its existing debt will significantly jeopardize its ability to continue operations."

"The Company has incurred significant losses from operations for the year ended December 31, 2006. In addition, the Company had a working capital deficit of approximately $10.3 million at December 31, 2006. The foregoing raises substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern. Management's plans include seeking additional capital and/or debt financing. There is no guarantee that additional capital and/or debt financing will be available when and to the extent required, or that if available, it will be on terms acceptable to the Company. The accompanying financial statements do not include any adjustments that might result from the outcome of this uncertainty. Our auditors have included a going-concern paragraph to their audit report."

The entire 10-K makes for interesting reading.

See meset.aspx?FilingID=5107317&Type=HTML [] for more information.


But then you must take into consideration the mindset of some working in the software development industry. See no IP, Hear no IP, Speak no IP.

Pretty sad state of affairs when somebody comes up with an original idea years before others and the ones with the big software houses think it belongs to them because they should be free to create what they want.

The fact that Microsoft itself tried very hard to stop the SiteFlash patent before it was granted. Now, they want to outrun the common decency. Better start now because IBM and Vertical have a five year head start. Losers. 


Re:Patents: From bad to worse.

(Score:5, Interesting)
by gujo-odori (473191) on Saturday April 21, @06:09AM (#18822405)
I'm a former employee of a certain large software company related to TFA, and interestingly, one thing they tell you when you go to work there (and I suspect other large companies that file lots of patents also do this) is that you should not - never, ever, ever - do any research into patents to try and find out if something you're developing or have developed and may be filing a patent application on might infringe any existing patents.

The reason for this is that if you do, infringement becomes easier to prove for anyone who does happen to sue you, because they can point at you and say "See, these programmers did patent research in this area, then produced a product and/or filed a patent on stuff that does what my stuff does" and if they win, then they will do better in the damages phase because they can present evidence showing willful infringement.

The bottom line was, leave any patent research, including the decision of whether or not to do it, up to the legal department. Don't get anywhere near it yourself.


I think this strategy might work on something small but .Net Framework and WinFS is a pretty big dog to hide under the table at some tea party, non? 

All you folks who wonder why no discussion all this time about what VCSY has... all you folks who can't figure out why this comes up all of a sudden... have you finally figured it out? Hmmmm? 

So NOW you wonder why all these technology 'expurts' can't seem to grasp what VCSY has done? They've been conditioned by industry practice and their employers to laugh off and disregard the property of others who came before.

That's ok. .Net Framework ('perfectXML' with such a lame imitative word play on 'pureXML' [such a joke] and Mono and any other arbitrary framework creator have a long history in front of them and the courts do allow discovery when things look so similar. This mass of critters crying out on slashdot are providing an easy roadmap to begin that sort of discovery because the chickens who laid the biggest eggs will always cluck the loudest when you go to collect those eggs... and rightfully so because the chicken does all the work and the family with the rightful owndership of the egg producing system eats the produce. pluck pluck

And you KNOW I had to get involved in the slashdot conversation since we VCSY longs need to interface with our technology colleagues who are apparently so overworked and stressed they don't have the time or the energy or the ethics to find out if somebody else has already patented what said population wants to use to make a fortune.

That's a shame.

by rastamafoo (1092581) on Tuesday April 24, @10:58AM (#18855269)
If folks would bother to do a little research they could avoid this kind of calamity. If Vertical Computers wins against Microsoft and any other development base their lawyers go after, it will be because Microsoft managers and developers used precisely this idea of 'if I don't see it elsewhere, it never existed'. Well, that's a convenient approach if you are confident you have something nobody else has done or has worked out... but... Vertical introduced their technology in Feb 2001. They produced a product called XML Enabler Agent IBM retired their XML Enabler in 2001 and introduced VCSY as among the top innovators in the US. Microsoft introduced Hailstorm in Mar 2001. It was a flop. IBM and Vertical XML disappeared from the scene shortly thereafter. Microsoft continued their rant on 'owning XML' due to some patents they touted. We don't hear word of those Microsoft patents any more do we? Do you want to know why? Because, when the SiteFlash patent was granted in November 2004 (right around the time Ballmer threw the chair at Lucovsky and drove XMLhttpRequest/Ajax into the arms of Google). Do you remember the Microsoft shut down public demonstration of all but the most simple XML projects back then? Why? Did they know? If they did not know about Vertical, their legal teams and managers are incompetent. Now the question lays 'Were they incompetent or did they have criminal intent?' Folks should get used to hearing about Vertical, SiteFlash, the XML Enabler Agent, Emily, WebOS, extensible micro-kernel operating systems and the works because the brain trust under Vertical's wing is skilled in this art because THEY are among those who have DONE the prior art... and YOU read about it in a book or scratch it out on the back of a paper bag and call it 'MINE'. It's not yours. You only borrowed it for a time. Vertical wants it back and any of the money you made on it because you failed to look up similar art (the patent application dates to 1999 - how many of you 'developers' were out of high school then?) because your managers told you not to. HA HA HA This is too funny. 'Honest judge. We didn't know!' 'Then what's that Dr. Dobbs magazine sticking out of your pocket? heh heh ... BANG. GUILTY.'


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:05 AM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:08 AM EDT
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Sunday, 15 April 2007
When you look for an answer you need to have a question handy.
Mood:  caffeinated
Now Playing: 'Short and Sweet' Circus act loses little people in corn syrup factory.
Topic: VCSY / Baseline

Buddy Bave from the treefort asks:

Rather odd choice of locations for CNN blitz..Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and ...Indianapolis.  Where was our mail crazy friend from?

Spittooee. Yep. I do believe it was Wisconsin is where he says he's from. 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 11:31 AM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 15 April 2007 11:38 AM EDT
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Uhhh... Hold the capuchino. There's a bird in my java.
Mood:  caffeinated
Now Playing: 'Wrecking Road' When vandals carjack the wrong car and the wrong driver.
Topic: VCSY / Baseline

I just put in the new baselines yesterday along with the waynescoat and the paneling in the kitchen. Bobby Fred is out back painting the rest of the baselines. We's gonna put them in the baby's room and the bathroom. But not the den. Roy likes to play his hot wheels in there and he can't bank off the wall or something like 'at. Something about he likes a 'uncluttered wall' to put in his track supports or some bull$#!@ when he has friends over. I swear if that boy didn't have a hotwheel in his hand his weiner would fall off. I never seen a kid play with anything more than them cars.

Bobby Joe! Bobby Joe! Let go of that little girls pants leg. Marcy what's her name? Leroy? Oh. Sorry baby it's just the way your momma dresses you I'm sure. Leroy. Let go of the rubber porkchop and Bobby Joe will put your leg down for you. Ok hon? Who's your momma? Dear god what do people think they are doing to their children these days? 

Sweety, go tell Jilly to come here and get Baby Joe out of the ditch.

I think it's going to rain and them crawdad hills they's got some ferocious bugs in there. Big as Godzilla I swear. Y'all go tell the Johnson kids I don't want to see no more chicken necks tied to Baby Joe. Poor baby gets a rash and I hate fooling with mudbugs unless they's going to be a party and you can't make no crawfish boil with one chicken neck. You might as well boil the chicken neck and eat that. HA. Anywhos. We's nailing the baselines down so when the housewarming happens soon as daddy gets out of jail and all Lord I hope he don't get drunk again and bust probation we can all get together out on the big patio. Lawnchairs and all. Gonna get me some green tiki torches. Roy says they oughta fire up a few Christians like the Romans do... I reminded him they used to do that but that's before Rome became a Christian nation. He said Christian nation his hairy cracker ass. Momma Fraiser says we need to pray for his soul.

Jilly... where are you going with that brick?

By: stillwtr19
15 Apr 2007, 12:42 AM EDT
Msg. 181679 of 181680

In my view this is our future!

Vertical Computer Systems Strengthens Security Suite Offering by Acquiring Exclusive Rights for StatePointPlus in Government and Healthcare in the United States and Canada
Wednesday March 14, 10:00 am ET

FORT WORTH, Texas, March 14, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. (OTC BB:VCSY.OB - News) ( announced today that it is has acquired exclusive rights to market StatePointPlus to government and healthcare users in the United States and Canada, as well as for all users in Brazil. VCSY had already acquired the same partial exclusivity rights from CW International, LLC (CWI) with regard to IA (formerly ImmuneApp).

IA and StatePointPlus are part of VCSY's security suite of products. In keeping with the movement in the software industry toward the software as a service model (SaaS), the security suite is named the Baseline Management Solution and is offered on a managed service basis.

VCSY has aggressively been making sales presentations of its Baseline Management Solution throughout the United States and Canada to various entities, including cities and other government agencies, as well as public companies subject to Sarbanes-Oxley reporting. NOW Solutions, Inc. (NOW Solutions), a wholly-owned subsidiary of VCSY, is also making presentations of the Baseline Management Solution to its customer base.

``In an era where security of a network has become a paramount concern, VCSY believes we have a very compelling service with our Baseline Management Solution,'' said Richard Wade, President and CEO of Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. ``By securing these exclusivity rights to StatePointPlus, VCSY becomes the only company in the United States and Canada that can offer IA and StatePointPlus as part of its Baseline Management Solution for the government and healthcare sectors.''

``With the combination of IA and StatePointPlus, not only will Vertical be able to provide the most secure environment available but the most efficiently managed,'' commented Sean Chumura of CW International. ``The Baseline Management Solution takes the gray areas of computer security and network management out of the daily routines and lets administrators focus on their core abilities to help the companies they work for, expand and grow without losing control of their networks.''

IA and StatePointPlus comprise the Baseline Management Solution, a complete security suite of software programs. IA is a client application that resides with the Microsoft operating system and shields computers within a protected network. StatePointPlus is a client application that allows mirroring of a system, keeping server data synchronized at any distance (local or remote), in real time. StatePointPlus enables a company to remotely monitor and repair the state of any computer system across the enterprise relative to its desired baseline from a central location. In addition, StatePointPlus can baseline regulatory compliance and IT best practice initiatives and automate the assurance of staying compliant with the areas being monitored. StatePointPlus can also do the same for any of the IT Compliance areas of other important regulatory compliance requirements

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

By: stillwtr19
15 Apr 2007, 01:07 AM EDT
Msg. 181680 of 181680

C. W. International LLC "BlackLab security systems"

Sean Chumura, Officer and CTO, CW International LLC

This company has many federal contacts and they sold there marketing rights to Vertical. In my view this is where a part of our future is! NOW its time to execute!

FORT WORTH, Texas, March 14, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. (OTCBB:VCSY) ( announced today that it is has acquired exclusive rights to market StatePointPlus to government and healthcare users in the United States and Canada, as well as for all users in Brazil. VCSY had already acquired the same partial exclusivity rights from CW International, LLC (CWI) with regard to IA (formerly ImmuneApp).

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:39 AM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 15 April 2007 3:25 AM EDT
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