Begin the Beguine
Mood:  smelly
Now Playing: Squeegy Wars - Image is important to these street corner workers (reality lowlifes)
Topic: VCSY

I had a little problem posting on Yahoo tonight and I decided I would start posting on the blogs a bit more. Reading the message boards is a trashy habit. Some places you can get useful information, but, most places you're going to be juggled and scammed. So read the message boards with a watchful eye and watch every word. 

So, I wrote this as a post intended to go on the board. But, thanks for the goof, Yahoo. you've motivated me to start blogging again. I owe ya.

BEGIN: 

Me? I'm just enjoying the show. It costs a fortune to keep you guys in the field so whoever's throwing their money away on such poor representation should be allowed to get a full snoot of it.

VCSY longs bring announcements of a new age of computing in 2000 and Al and his guys bring nothing but insults and ridicule and fail to give any hint they know anything about the subject.

And we have Al dumping his previous incarnation out of the blue. Al claims it's because he used profanity but his entire post history is crammed full of as much profane abuse against VCSY and the scam he claims it to be, the VCSY shareholders and anyone stupid enough to be associated with them.

Al jettisoned his posting history and now kalafella announces he's tepe, the rabid anti-vcsy poster on Raging Bull VCSY. http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_V/threadview?m=tm&bn=33693&tid=6047&mid=6070&tof=3&frt=1

Tepe knows how to toe the legal line and there was always a day of reckoning where he had to announce he was the same poster here as at RB. Why did he decide to come clean so quickly and succinctly here? And more-over, why NOW?

Microsoft is making all kinds of noise about some amazing capabilities while articles are coming to the fore about the shortcomings and failures of sharepoint and .Net.

There are two specific pieces here:

From a selection of 200+ developers including MSFT MVP's and legends casting a vote of no confidence on ADO.Net Entity Framework: http://efvote.wufoo.com/forms/ado-net-entity-framework-vote-of-no-confidence/

and this critique on Sharepoint, Microsoft's new collaboration phenomena nobody knew.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc700347.aspx

The morons will tell you Microsoft builds crap on purpose. What they don't tell you is Microsoft builds crap because they are fielding their version of a minimal build of a set of technology claims they can get away with.

Figure it out.

Meanwhile, the basher action is heating up. The Markman Hearing date is still ahead the end of this month. A last minute delay by a Microsoft lawyer who suddenly discovered he had an appointment conflict on that original day; a day scheduled since last year in East Texas.

OK another couple weeks of wiggle room. Then Microsoft will have to face up to their weak case.

It is weak, isn't it Al? That Microsoft brief got shot full of holes by the article here: http://efvote.wufoo.com/forms/ado-net-entity-framework-vote-of-no-confidence/

but you won't acknowledge that because it gives you the sweats. I'll tell you what happened. Somebody in Microsoft scrood your little hedge fund pooch.

That's a shame. Nice to see you guys shaping up, though. Nothing like eyes on the back of your head to make you sit up straight and act civil.

Now, audience. Sit back and watch what a few million in hedge fund shenanigans can pull off.

I called the utility company and they said they're trying to get the Sun to work.
Mood:  cool
Now Playing: 'A Cold Day in Hell' Population wonders what happened when Sun doesn't rise. (Rocket Science)
Topic: VCSY

To all of you (this one's for all those intransigent relatives out there, Benjy) who may be on the fence wrestling with the idea that something as small as VCSY and a few scraps of government issued paper can have such a disrupting effect on the software (and hardware) industry, I offer you one more brick through your window to wake you up.

(for those who don't know; a jar is a zipped file for distributing Java code)

JavaFX: Sun isn't sure about the license

Wednesday May 23, 2007 7:42AM

Wait a minute. There’s something wrong here, Sun isn’t even sure about the license for the JavaFX jars. This is definitely more fuel for the “JavaFX isn’t real” crowd. And, the only thing I’m taking away from this discussion is that it is illegal to do anything with JavaFX at the moment. That’s certainly what I take away from the user discussion.

Here is a message to users@openjfx.dev.java.net from Guillaume Pothier from May 22nd. The emphasis is mine, and it’s a question I’ve had myself…

Hi, I would like to know what is the current legal status of JavaFX.
In particular:
- Can I redistribute javafxrt.jar, Filters.jar and swing-layout.jar
with a GPL application? With a commercial application?
- Can I redistribute JavaFXPad?
- Can I distribute a modified version of JavaFXPad? Under which license?

Regards,
g

And the response from Nandini Ramani on users@openjfx.dev.java.net:

Guillaume,
The licensing terms for JavaFX are still under discussion. So, you
cannot redistribute JavaFXPad or any of the jars. I will keep you posted
once we have something in place.

-Nandini

…you don’t introduce The Big Product at The Java Conference without figuring out what license the thing is going to be under. I’m trying to give this technology a chance, but this is insane. They’ve created this “open source community” which isn’t really open or transparent in the least sense of the word. The fact that Sun can’t just tell us what the licensing and redistribution terms for JavaFX are right off the bat should give us some pause.

Add to this the fact that all of the source code has the following header:

/*
* $Id$
*
* Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
* SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
*/

Great, so what are those “license terms” again? I’m thinking GPLv2 + Classpath extension. Anyone else have any suggestions for Sun?

Suggestions? Yeah. How about telling Steve Ballmer and the rest of the squid school at Microsoft to swallow the mud and settle with VCSY so Sun can move forward with a legit license for JavaFX... a bogus copy of Emily.

You nitwits.

click

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Mister Sandman... bring me a box.
Mood:  spacey
Now Playing: 'When all the Spinning Stops' Carousel owner trades plasticine horses for fiberglas yacht. (Adventure/Mystery)
Topic: VCSY

Lots of conflicting signals. Lots of various elevations. Looks like somebody got religion and it's taking a while for them to clear out their liquor closet... didn't know it was a walk-in.

If all the hoorah and bubbly crap in Mister Softee's intestines is not for "technical" reasons and is for "technology" reasons, we can assume everything Mister Softee has been complaining about with the twisted bowels will be skraightened out ... just like it did with Apple. Just like it did with Yahoo... Maybe they all ate out of the same beefaroni bowl.

 

BAG!!

Bwup... ugh ugh... kack. Thanks. I feel much better now. 

Perhaps the VCSY bus is rolling up in to the Happy Home for Convalescent Wayward Yoots. The kids will be happy.

May 23rd, 2007
Might XP SP3 ship in 2007, after all?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 9:03 am

 

I'm gonna go get... uhhhh... cleaned up a bit and I'll meet all you little sweeties out on the patio.

How 'bout I leave the radidio on for y'all?

 

Unfaithful servant, I hear you leavin' soon in the mornin'.
What did you do to the lady, that she's gonna have to send you away?
Unfaithful servant, you don't have to say you're sorry,
if you done it just for the spite, or did ya do it just for the glory?
Like a stranger you turned your back,
left your keys and gone to pack.
Bear in mind who's to blame, and all the shame;
she really cared, the time she spared and the home you shared.

Unfaithful servant, I can hear the whistle blowin',
yes, that train is a-comin' and soon you'll be a-goin'.
Let us not bow our heads for we won't be complainin';
Life has been good to us all
even when that sky is rainin'.
To take it like a grain of salt
is all I can do. Its no one's fault,
Makes no diff'rence if we fade away.
It's just as it was, it's much to cold for me to stay.

Goodbye to that country home,
so long to a lady I have known,
Farewell to my other side,
I'd best just take it in stride.
Unfaithful servant, you'll learn to find your place;
I can see it in your smile,
and, yes, I can see it in your face.
The mem'ries will linger on,
the good old days, they're all gone,
Oh! lonesome servant, can't you see,
that were still one and the same, just you and me.

Unfaithful Servant
The Band/Robbie Robertson

 

Seems like yesterday, doesn't it?
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Naked Amongst the Briars' Existentialist art film about angst in anticipation. (Farce)
Topic: VCSY

Peterd13 is referring to a time when XML knowledge was fairly common amongst tech investors and when what VCSY was saying and doing made a lot of sense to a lot of people. Now, that same company makes sense to only a few people... ahhhh those were the days.

But, then, these days are so much more affordable.

By: peterd13
14 May 2007, 11:28 PM EDT
Msg. 185240 of 185242
(This msg. is a reply to 184995 by DC-Steve.)

Steve,

Your quote from post # 184989:

"My point was that VCSY would go from pennies to multiple dollars .... (and) this increase will take place over a very short time. If it rose to $20+ which is reasonable given the scenario RR says is guaranteed, we're talking an increase of more than 100,000%. I'm pretty sure that would represent one of the biggest, fastest price increases in history in terms of both percentage and dollar value."


I'm sure you know that this stock has all ready done that, and much much more!!!

In November of 1999 Scientific Fuel Technology Inc. (now Vertical Computer, Inc.) traded for $.01 (you can look it up if you need to....) As we all know, only a few short months later (February, 2000) the price of the stock reached $122.50 (split adjusted - 6 1/8 X 20). In other words, $1,000.00 invested (100,000 shares) at the low became 2 million shares, and if sold at the high was worth $12,250,000.....

Absolute fact.....


peterd13

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

When the boat toots get on board.
Mood:  smelly
Now Playing: 'Far Away Looks To Far Away' Populace of village wait for construction of luxury homes.
Topic: VCSY

Tonight in our BBP studios we have noted explorer and professor of anthropology Colonel Smithely Worthington Crumweld the third Earl of Dowdy, Duke of Cobbin and Fourth Godson to the Archbishop Pinkel T. Piddling of Counting Alworth.

Colonel, welcome.

brack... ahem... phfsstt... you're quite welcome, my dear.

Professor, perhaps you can relate to our viewers what exciting times you've had living, as it were, amongst  the heathen Wanga Pangy of Catalina. I hear they are a fiercely competitive tribe.

Ah... blubboom... living, as it were is quite the description as these foolish heathen have no respect for decent deliberation and doting. One must make decisions very carefully, especially in the jungle...

I see. It must have been a...

THERE WE WERE... poised... to enter... our portered canoes to risk the treacherous passage down Goneanddoneit Creak which empties out into Lake Wwwhadafkhapend  and we were mesmerized by the hypnotic ritual dance of the Getdafkowtahe tribe of tree-dwellers taking over the general commerce on the piece of land known as the 'Mooka maka wika wonka shempa groopa pooh' or 'Place where bufallo butt get stuck in twin tree fork'.

Charming name, Professor, but I was wonder... 

THE CULTISTS... as they must be called for they are fanatically dedicated to their homeland and property having endured many incursions and insults over the years... are solidly socialized under a loose system of drums and smoke signals which allow them to stay informed on a community wide basis. Their knowledge of ancient events and names and stories is fanatcial, their celebration of key ancestral milestones is keen and enthuriastic and their vision for a utopia filled with pineapple breezes and fiberglass boats ... these people with primitive social skills and quick wits and even quicker recall of facts and historical events are usually quite mellow and calm.

I see... wha....

BUT, WHEN ONE COMES THROUGH their areas making so much as to give a "smell your stink" type of expression or as the Pangy call it  'pucka wookie noka noogoo ninka wachit etdomorow' the tribe erupts like a nest of nak-nak fleas infesting the entire hill with gnawing commentary and provocative jabs. A nest the size of this on that dead bull carcass over there is big enough to infest every gnawing doubt in any crevice within a hundred miles of here... you see.

Ahhh.. THEY ARE PRONE!... to head shrinking and many have found themselves witlessly defending less and less of their original intellectual standing and self-respect in hopes of escaping the confrontation with a shred of previous form or favor. Defense of a posting position quickly becomes a fight for social survival and dignity once in the jaws of the ever vigilant and noble Getdafkowtahe.

How nice... wel....

THE DANCE is called 'wha nook nook no maka poka binga wanga wook' better known in this country as the 'blue suede booboo' and is performed whenever territorial disputes are brought foreward. The dances themselves may be highly unique but usually result in impassioned posturing, highly accurate and effective spear throwing, often degenerating to mudslinging and perhaps scatological displays of varying repugnance but all with a strategy from the socialized mass and watchers ready to steer the mass in the direction of the tenderest meats... uhhh... as it were... and the...

FASCINATING, PROFESSOR. I'm sure we all hope you will be returning to that lovely land soon...

Well, my dear, I am a bit too old for the rigours of the trail, as it were, but I do like to shake a nook nook here and there and I am wont to pick up a handful of mud or other pulpy mass to aid whatever defense I might need press against an enemy's thrusts, so to speak. But, I can assure you, in the end, you will find that scoundrel's head will be far smaller than my own... which I might say, is quite promin...

THANK YOU Professor  and for the BBP... good night.

Seven Sirens Sang Similar Sour Sweet Symmetry Songs
Mood:  lazy
Topic: VCSY

If I gets nervous I chucks my hotdog. So y'all stand back. 

 

 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180616

By: danfl_11
03 Apr 2007, 03:50 PM EDT
Msg. 180616 of 180638

Hear ye hear ye Rasta's complaint!!!
Not safe with me channeling around like a haint.
Get out of the others where you ain't.

*bbbsssvvveveevvtttttttttttt* *poop*

Dear Mary jo Foley,

regarding your report in
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=364

Here's how it is Mary Jo (Ya'll go get Bobby Joe and Baby Joe out of the street they's a car coming. Is that Mister Silverberg?) Microsoft had this thing called 'Silkroute', ok? VCSY had this thing most people call the 'XML Enabler'. Silkroute was patent pending and ended up patented in 2003 (I think - pretty sure but you have encyclopedias of information at your fingertips, hon. You can look it up. Or do you have an assitant for that? I need assistance with these kids. Can you baby sit some?) and VCSY's patent application for the claims that can be used to build something like the XML Enabler was in the pipeline. When VCSY's XML Enabler went up for examination the examiner at first said 'like SilkRoute' and no dice. Then the VCSY lawyers showed how SilkRoute is only a one-way direction XML transfer and VCSY is two-directional. Plus Silkroute is just a connector to make XML go from proprietary to XML. XML Enabler is an agent that is able to do ANYTHING in XML with full transaction functions and tracking and management and governance and anything else you want to plug in to the join between proprietary and XML and back.

Head hurts? Mine too.

As you can see the XML enabler is able to 'enable' proprietary data into XML but with all the different kinds of functions you might need to carry off that transfer legally. That's right it's kind of like a Sarbanes-Oxley transaction execution and tracking software device that can be put at any web tool location to record and audit the actions of the web page user. AJAX on steroids with a terminator skeleton. Look at the way IBM does like that with their IBM Web Data Collector and XML Bridge. Same same.

We don't see Microsoft showing anything like that except for AJAX and AJAX would probably still be a mystery meat and Microsoft still gluing longhorn together as far as XML is concerned if Lucovsky had not had a chair thrown thru his space. KWIM?

(That's right Miss Frisbee. Throwed a chair! My daddy woulda jerked me up two dress sizes if I done that. Ya'll don't throw rocks at Mister Silverberg's car! Put that brick down Jilly. Ya'll go watch TV. They's a new episode of Rin Tin Tin coming on.)

Now the moral of THAT story is that the treeforters (People that live at another web site and think they've died and gone to heaven because they aren't at Raging Bull if they don't need to go there. Kind of like Baptists in a mini-mart.) snooped around and found out that VCSY was going to be awarded a patent on the XML Enabler Agent (7,076,521). Well that was more than our little blabby mouths could take so we yelled and screamed about it and sure enough VCSY announced in a PR when they would be granted an allowance for patent 7,076,521. It happened to coincide with Vista being delayed for 'technical reasons' one week before the patent allowance was made public by VCSY. Any nitiwit reading RagingBull could have put two and two together during that time so it was easy to gain early information about it. More than likely it's not what VCSY wanted to happen because they never put out a PR about other patent allowance awards. We never said anything about any allowances before this one. Probably because we never found out about them.

So what am I saying? VCSy has a markup programming language called Emily. Suspicions are it is at the root of a programming language IBM GAVE NASA (just like IBM GAVE speech translation products to the government/military this week) to PROGRAM (A 'programming language' with only 200k words? Can you say Very High Level Language? VHLL?) PROGRAM, mind you, the controls for the James Webb Space Telescope. Check it out if you are interested in advanced languages. Check it out anyway because it's one of the ways all programs will come to be done one day. 'My' prediction.

Anyway back to Emily. Emily is in a class of programming langugages by itself. There are plenty of posts written about what it can do. Use one of these people around heya as a nexus for a new lexus... as it were. Sorry. Can't avoid the rhyme. It's like Tourette's Syndrome for attention.

Microsoft convinced (Somehow convinced I am sure because you would have to hold some pretty strong conviction to maintain this sort of view as articulated by the young man.) the examiner that because FrontPage has a patented claim for managing HTML files the XML file management embodied as some claims in Emily was prior art. Get it? HTML = XML as a 'markup programming language'. Sure. You're 'programming' a web page browser to represent your web page with HTML to link to other webpages of HTML to build a passive website. That? or: You're programming your webpages to have multiple characteristics and functionalities in concert with other functionally capable webpages as aggregated web-based applications in XML.

So the examiner ruled in favor of FrontPage. ???

But, you see, that puts Microsoft in a difficult position (My daddy used to called that the 'pointy pinchers' of life. Kind of like getting the kumkWats pecked by a bluejay. Hurts.) out in the open where people can argue points about technology as it really is and not accoring to the spin cycle on somebody's laundry machine.

So this kumkwat pinch they are in where they can't market Expression as a 'development' package because then they would have to explain how FrontPage can't be viewed as a 'development' package amongst the knowledge community without being laughed out of the auditorium. And here they are now turning around in public due to the outcry from their own development community. Hmmmm. Maybe Expression DOES do some functional work in XML. I think VCSY lawyers should be allowed to have a lookie loo.

I wonder why the about face? Guess they figure embarrassment now is worse than future tort by report. Because when Expression comes up against Emily there will be a very loud laughter heard throughout the Web 2.0 community and Microsoft intent will be full and fluffy under the see through shower curtain.

So it sure looks to me like they TRIED to sneak Expression out the door lowkeyed like back for designers and once developers saw they were manipulating some XML in those designer tools they had created the Microsoft developers cried out in their grief and XML tool famine (My grandpa's favorite Bible verse was 'Lo and behold I come quickly and I'm going to kick some crackerass when I do.' I don't know where exactly that is. Maybe Ekeleesiastees or something like 'at. Darlene take Baby Joe in the house and pick them crawdads off him and ya'll quit putting him in the ditch in mudbug season!) and Moses gave them 'Expression for developers kinda'.

What's going on Mary Jo? We can't see all the way in them big people's house on the hill. Somebody like you can I bet. Won't you please hep our poor information rationed brethren and find out do they or don't they? Can they make web applications with XML or canthey not. And if they can't can we just mail our Emily patent application back with the correct postage and all and they can get somebody WITH SOME FREAKING BRAINS AND A BUCKET TO PUT THEM IN to examine it please. Now, I'm not impuning no integrity here because Lord knows mines not exemplary. But we just had a trial that lasted 5 years in the hands of a judge who couldn't seem to make up his mind. Now we have an examiner who apparently doesn't know what the word 'programming' means.

Here's your chance Mary Jo. Prove me wrong. Do it for me. I'm tired of being right all the time. A life full of success without failure is like pecan pie without corn syrup. There's nothing compelling in there to hold the nuts together.

Prove all of us wrong. We see you're riding on the same carousel because your subjectivities all align so we can see up your youknowwhats. Didn't know you were such abold journalism major. Nobody knows why you got the brass ring but I see you been reaching the past few weeks and sure enough the horse you rode in on seems to be leaning most toward the post.

Come on Mary Jo. You can do it. Sure I'm flushing all your contacts under ground. That way we can tell the diff/delta (Delta Dawn whut's that flower you got on can it be a faded Rose from days gone byyeeeee. Who the hell is home? I thought all your friends were gone... something something something else hmmm mmmm mmmmmm) from the squirrels and the groudhogs. We eat squirrels around here so there is no public park. It's all woods.

Do I hear banjos in the distance?

Besides, I'm getting ready to pull the mask off before long anyway. Gonna hang up the spurs one more time. Get out of the saddle. Pop a top on a Getweiser and watch me some GPS enabled Nascar. Gonna go 'back to my roots' so to speak. Vroooom. The kids in this neighborhood can skin a hornytoad in less than three posts so they don't need no wisecracker making a show. My channeling days are a coming to an end. The professionals who don't exist on here are angry because they can't achieve their objective which was to dash this little piece of crockery to pieces. They didn't realize how big the crock really was. Some things you can kick over and not get stuff on your boots. Some things you kick over and you end up not only topping your boots but filling your mouth. It's a wise one who keeps the mouth shut whilst swimming toward a high point. Nod nod wink wink.

Sincerely,
Masta P

We now return you to our normally scheduled posting curriculum.



(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

 

What Microsoft needs that it can't do:
Mood:  celebratory
Topic: VCSY

Check it out. I don't have to exert much energy at all to let you know what the deal is. Hell yeah. Couldn't a done it better cause I did it myself. And here it is, ladies and gentlemens, prepackaged for us:

 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AAPL&read=199237

By: danfl_11
27 Mar 2007, 02:39 AM EDT

Msg. 199237 of 199443d here's another one if you're curious:
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=158009
By: ajax203
06 May 2006, 03:58 PM EDT
Msg. 158009 of 179897
(This msg. is a reply to 157961 by RapidRobert2.)
Jump to msg. #
RR - I dont know why Im so flappergasketed about that Microsoft PR. It really sounds like Larry and Moe trying to explain why Curly is late with the thanksgiving turkey.

I know 90% of the people reading think this is completely ridiculous to say VCSY can trip up Microsoft. But maybe 10% were long time readers of this board since 2000 and they had a chance to watch the same things we all see. Those are the people that are carrying on a conversation about what might be happening between VCSY and IBM and what might be happening inside Microsoft and why.

What is so wierd is that the Microsoft things happening last year and now are what you would think would happen if somebody threw a monkey wrench into the Micrososft development. They cant make Vista work? Security? Vista is a system that tries to wrap all of the operating system ties to windows applications in a internet wrapper basically so you can control applications across the internet Its one of the easier things to do PLUS they own the applciations and the OS specs so they know exactly how things are going to behave. And they cant do that? They have armies of the best programmers in the world and they cant do it? The problem is their operating system has so much of a "kludged by committe" history they have to incorporate all that background compatability in whatever they do. Plus they have to wait on standards to be laid down so they can coral all the small players and keep them in line using the protocols. SiteFlash and Emily doesnt need any protocols other than what they decide to do since their system is standards transparent and arbitrary. If your system is based on a standard they can use you. If your system is proprietary they can use you.

It doesnt make sense for Microsoft to come up short like this and alot of people on the tech blogs are saying exactly that. What the hell does that mean?

IBM had a alphaworks XML Enabler they were advertising. After VCSY put out their XML ENabler Agent IBM retired their XML Enabler. What gives with that?

VCSY published a PR about Emily XML Enabler Agent in a top Redmond Washington technology magazine just a few weeks before Microsoft announced Hailstorm in 2001. Hailstorm went down in flames by the end of 2001.

Somebody compared VCSY having something better than what Microsoft has to be like comparing VHS and Betamax. And that would be true if Microsoft had something that worked and people liked to use. Thats what happened with VHS. more people were using it because it worked. Betamax died out slow because the tech geeks used it.

OK Ill buy that it is like that. So show me the VHS product Microsoft has in XML/SOAP SOA when the industry they are trying to reach is snickering about what they are doing. Micrososfts stuff is too complicated and that means workarounds because they cant go from point a to point b without screwing up their own standards or without crossing comebody elses IP backyard.

Maybe VHS has a dominant comparison here because just the size of the user base MSFT has. The fact that VCSy pulled advertising for the XML Enabler Agent package for $495 is really strange and it tells me Wade is in the bunker and hes not ready to come out until his IP and what they are trying to do with is safe. They need to start advertising right about now to face this flood of AJAX advertising and pieces and hype. Aand I know Microsoft is pooring money out the ### into AJAX and they wont say. They are pooring a billion dollars into a search engine. What does it do look for blue quarks out of a pile of green quarks? OK THATs a search engine.

Know what I think? Maybe VCSY is going to be the betamax that wins out because people get disgusted with MSFT. MSFT will ALWAYS be around because they have such a large user base and they have a huge store of cash and some of the best talent in the world. But their management lost direction when they started fighting over the stupid browser because they couldnt see the idea about the desktop moving from MyComputer to MyDesktop across a generally available network (the internet).

It looks like all Micrososoft knows about the internet is in the browser. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY? because they had a self interest in keeping Sun close like a buddy and away from IBM. So they lived off of Java and didnt realize until just recently what everybody else knew trying to match XML to Javascript. It dont work none too good.

So they needed a fix for that and Lo and cornholed it turns out Microsoft had it in their back room all that time. It crawled out of the back room with Mark Lukovsky when he went to Google in Jabuary 2005. Now its out on the world and the developers are extending what it can do. Its called AJAX and if you really take the time and effort to dig through the internet information on all this you can see like a movie with these actors reacting to something nobody can see.

Its like three giant stars orbiting around something that is invisible. MSFT Sun and IBM all working around a real XML RPC method that is simple and correct that will work on the http and be as loose coupled as the marbles in your pocket. If they go to somebody elses pocket they assume another class of coupling and associations. If you can stratify this activity over time you can track who what when and where such and so marble has been. Then you can ask yourself "Self. Why would people be trading marbles?" And you can granularly advance regress and branch or even transcend your inquiry (what a real search is supposed to look like)

And that brings me to the question about why nobody can see IT and why "nobody ever bought one". VCSY had the XML Enabler Agent "on sale" for $495. But when you tried to buy one they wanted so much background and information on use and the license basically said "Here ya go buy this sucker and whatever you end up making out of it beyond the XML Enabler Agent" is our invention and theank you very much for developing it for us." I didnt have a baby available to feed to them so I didnt go any closer to the cage.

The ony reason you do that is because you dont want people using your "publicly available" stuff until you coral up all the IP you can chase down before taking the covers off

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- No Position)

 

The Cisco Kid Was a Friend of Mine
Mood:  celebratory
Topic: VCSY
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180229
By: 4sirius2
29 Mar 2007, 03:36 PM EDT
    Msg. 180229 of 180466
(This msg. is a reply to 180226 by Sliver_Fox.)
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Silver, it got so bad at one time that Portuno Diamo started a
board for Vertical shareholders and it is there that sanity
has prevailed for some years for what is now 104 members.

Many of the longs you see here migrate here to deal with the
insanity on behalf of the innocent public and the investments
of shareholders.

It's PH members who have been going to court who also post here
btw.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

Buenos Tacos. Howsa lumbago. Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!
Mood:  amorous
Topic: VCSY

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180268
By: Sliver_Fox
30 Mar 2007, 09:55 AM EDT
    Msg. 180268 of 180466
(This msg. is a reply to 180261 by danfl_11.)
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Dan . . . as we agree . . .

VCSY technology is a "choke point". Not that it is the end all and do all, but without it nothing can be done.

Like water in the desert . . . like a mountain pass, if you want to get from here to where you want to go, one will have to use VCSY technology to get there . . . and that is what makes this little company so valuable.

You said it was the "glue" . . . How correct.

Looking forward to the good times . . . whenever.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Buy; LT Rating- Buy)

Word to the wise nod nod wink wink say no more say no more
Mood:  energetic
Topic: VCSY
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=180255
By: morrie33
29 Mar 2007, 11:32 PM EDT
Msg. 180255 of 180466
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Sliver, none of my LONGS buddies were in court today, that I know of, and I have no emails to pass on. If I have the info, I would share it ASAP...I love to share good info on VCSY...but no news.

On another note, it might be interesting that Verizon was awarded billions and billions of dollars for that GSA account today. And Robin Mattern, a past associate of VCSY, is now working with the GSA.


(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)