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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Friday, 23 April 2010
Wandering Over the Tire Tracks.
Mood:  d'oh
Now Playing: "Lifting the Lamp" Old Gaslighter sticks his wick in an explosive mixture (silent movings)
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

I had a little problem storing this here:

 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=138578&l=ef1fc615be&id=100000645764055

 

So I figgered I would put it here for safe keeping.

 

Perhaps I should save some of this for the record. You never know when things will get lost from those message boards.

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/XFBML

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facebook and iframe/an 
asp.net 23-Apr-10 05:36 pm 
http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/inde...

and what is xfbml...a 
markup language...

how does this connect to the adobe flash issue?

portuno, et al ...guys, your thoughts?

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 23-Apr-10 05:50 pm 
It's a semi-propriatary subset of HTML with special tags and API's for facebook functionality. I wonder when they will start migrating to HTML5. :)


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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:40 pm 
That's funny. It doesn't look like HTML. Are you telling us FBML is HTML? Really? So, is it part of HTML5? Or is this another brand that 
Facebook just decided to hack together, to hell with HTML5?

Looks like XML to me. The guy in the below article thinks it looks like XML also.

As I've said, it's easy to hide hardware. But it's difficult to hide language. There is always going to be some breadcrumb laying around to give the game away.

And, if you're concerned about being pegged for IP violation, perhaps it's best to simply try to keep the mouth shut. But, like I said, breadcrumbs break off right at the outside boundary of the mouth:

http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/03/is-facebook-markup-language-fm.html
Is Facebook Markup Language (FBML) HTML, XML or some homemade demon spawn of the two?
By 
Rick Jelliffe
March 25, 2009

I was browsing at the local Kinokuniya bookstore yesterday, and I flipped through the O'Reilly book on FBML. Now I have no particular interest in FBML, but I was interested in that book steered clear of any issues relating to syntax. No mention of XML in the index, or in the introduction, yet it clearly used namespace prefixes and empty element syntax, so it looked like XML.

I wondered to myself if this represented some new stage of XML's ubiquity, where XML is such a given it does not even need to be stated, let alone explained. But looking through the FBML website has left me uncertain.

The FBML material never seems to say that it is XML: but it frequently talks of HTML: FBML is an evolved subset of HTML. Now there are things that definitely are spoken of as XML: for example it has a "DTD" (actually an XML Schema.) And there is something called XFBRL intended to be put in XHTML.

There are hints such as:

If you're formatting the tag as FBML, 
you don't need to use a closing tag.
"<fb:name uid="12345" />"

If you're formatting the tag as XFBML for Facebook Connect, 

you must use a closing tag.

"<fb:name uid="12345"></fb:name>"


As near as I can work out, FBML is designed to look like XML but not necessarily be well-formed. But I really don't know, because the documentation is interested in element and attribute names, not syntax. From that, I would guess either that there is some hedging of bets going on about formats, or that there is a single editor application that is being documented, which looks after the syntax.

Does any reader have any pointers to better information?

(By the way, I am quite sympathetic to the idea that XML's Draconian WF handling is excessive for user-oriented web documents, which the title of this piece may not make entirely clear.)

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:41 pm 
(continued from previous post)
I'm fascinated people think an XML based functional language would depend on a parser and wouldn't know what to do if it found a syntax anomaly.... like a name starting with a number ...

Would it not make sense the underlying XML processor would route data word and content to data processing and route command word and content to command processing?

It's not really hard to figure out unless you're trying to hide the language. Then the view you see doesn't make sense. Like the industry pouring their hearts into XHTML then abandoning it in favor of doing the same thing in HTML... for no real discernible reason than the ball of goo it would take to teach how to process command XML properly.

One would have to have already worked out all that kind of hoorah years ago... like the 521 patent did ten years ago.

So. XFBML.... XML or HTML? Looks like XML actually. But, like mirror says, XML can ONLY be used to describe data. That's what he says and he's supposed to be the expert.

It's just that this Facebook language just doesn't look right, does it? Hmmmm. Why would something not look right?

Why would a real tank seen from far away look like a cardboard tank close up? Odd. Isn't it?

Do you think this oddity could have something to do with Facebook being able to announce this latest ability to interoperate with just about every other social platform? ... and with Microsoft?

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:42 pm 
So Facebook just "made up" a language, huh?

Pretty reckless engineers and managers over there, don't you think?

(continued from previous post)

By chuck on March 26, 2009 11:26 AM | Reply
This won't validate in an xml parser:
"<fb:18-plus>Oooh la laBarney?</fb:18-plus>"

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Fb:18-plus

So it is a demon spawn.

By Rick Jelliffe in reply to comment from chuck on March 26, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply
Because a name cannot start with a digit!

By Sean Blakey on March 26, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply
Homemade demon spawn from a PHP shop.
libfbml actually uses libraries from firefox to render the "approved" subset of HTML with FBML enhancemens into a safe DOM structure, which is then serialized back into HTML for output to clients.

By len on March 28, 2009 10:34 PM | Reply
Gonna fight well-formedness? HA!
Good idea in one respect: If XML is so strict the user has to know it all to use it, it's only going to be used well by strict users. Any guesses how many people out there know the rules of XML that well? I don't. :-(

By Chuck on March 29, 2009 4:12 AM | Reply
It's not that tough to deal with XML, len. Just use a validating parser to catch problems. There are free ones all over the internet.

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:45 pm 
So if you people are depending on a company to point to their new enhanced and highly efficient language and say "Oh, by the way, the secret sauce has mayo in it." you're going to be plenty ignorant for plenty long. At least until the confidentiality period is over.

If you don't look, you don't study. If you don't study, you don't learn. If you don't learn, you don't move. If you don't move, you get stepped on.

Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     23-Apr-10 06:47 pm    
The Nuts and Bolts of FBML

FBML isn’t quite HTML and isn’t quite proprietary. The closest analog I can think of is ColdFusion, ironically the language in which MySpace is written. FBML consists of a subset of HTML (no script tags, for example) and a set of proprietary extensions. 

These extensions act like HTML tags and can be divided into two broad classes: markup tags and procedural tags. Markup tags include UI elements and are generally directly translated into HTML. The fb:header tag, for example, produces the HTML for a Facebook-style header. 

Other tags like fb:if-can-see have a programmatic component. In this case the content between the tags is rendered only if the current user has permission to do whatever is specified in the tag’s attributed.



Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     27 minutes ago    
You know what's really ironic? The original Emily patent application mentioned Coldfusion as one of the things closest to anything prior art about Emily.

Thanks for that explanation mirror. It begins to make more sense now.

No wonder Apple is afraid of Adobe.

So, let's see. A language that isn't really HTML and isn't really XML but is a fusion of both.

Yep. That sounds about right.

"Other tags like fb:if-can-see have a programmatic component. In this case the content between the tags is rendered only if the current user has permission to do whatever is specified in the tag’s attributed."

OK. So the underlying ecosystem regulates who has permissions and who does not and that determines the behaviours of the language components.

Right. Got that.


Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     16 minutes ago    
Are you trying to imply that Facebook is powered by Emily? HAhahahahahahahaha!


Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     14 minutes ago    
I'm trying to find out why Facebook's programming language looks like programmatic XML and smells like programmatic XML when everybody's so busy (especially you) saying it's not even XML.

Any ideas? 

 

 

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     28 minutes ago    

Because XML is a markup language like HTML and they can look similar with those ugly tags and all.

  

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     8 minutes ago    

I see. So how are you so certain it's HTML? You usually don't seem disposed to believe marketing writeups but you whole heartedly appear to believe those that make your case.

Like I said, languages are hard to hide because what they look like is what usually sticks out from under the tarp.

And if Facebook has "made up" a language that looks like XML but YOU swear is HTML... OK.

Then it's not HTML5 either, is it?

So Facebook, according to your reading, has gone rogue and decided screw XML and screw HTML5 WE'RE GOING TO WRITE OUR OWN LANGUAGE!!!

Yeah. 

That just doesn't sound like reasonable people running a company.

Could it be they want this whole "XML programming/HTML5 rescue of XHTML desires" controversy to be resolved before they come out and tell the world how Facebook came up with this "brand new language" and are now able to interoperate not only with Microsoft but everyone else and yet are not calling it HTML5... or letting the rest of the HTML5 community in on how they're doing the functionality Facebook is doing with markup?

I didn't think HTML5 was that far along. In fact, as far as anyone knows, HTML5 is only right now trying to conquer the video hurdle. 

In fact, the standards bodies W3C and WHATWG don't seem to carry any mention of the kind of programmatic markup commands being used in Facebook XFBML.

WTF????

Did something happen we're not seeing? Is somebody hiding something? What do you think?

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     1 minute ago    

FBML is a nonstandard form of HTML with proprietary extensions that are Facebook-specific. I don't know why you find this difficult to accept. I gave you a link. There are plenty of HTML variations out there. What's the big deal?

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     6 second(s) ago    

This is the big deal.

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Facebook's markup language for executing programmatic functionality seems to look like XML and act like XML and not necessarily HTML.

But you insist it's HTML. Just "non-standard".

So it's not HTML5. It's a new language Facebook made to appear to be HTML... that looks and acts more like XML would.

Just curious.

You know me. I can't let anything rest. If something's sticking out from under a cover, I have to lift the cover and ask what's under there.

You know, if Facebook is moving the ball like this, then the rest of the vendors and users waiting for more HTML5 functionality are screwed. Facebook and Microsoft appear to be sneaking off the field with the ball.

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     3 minutes ago    

Yeah. In fact, the only difference between XML and HTML is the underlying processing of the tags and vocabulary syntax.

So HTML and XML are only separated by semantics.

So HTML has prior art as a programming language... so HTML5 can't claim any novelty in using HTML to build programmatic functional operation.

But XML is well known for ONLY being designed and used to describe data and data structure.

So any first use of XML as a programmatic functional language... is novel; it's an extension of the use cases of the XML family toward something entirely new.

And HTML? Not.

No wonder they took the HTML verbiage out of the Emily patent application. That would not be patentable because HTML has prior art in that area before circa 1999.

But XML does not have prior art in that are before circa 1999.

So, removing the references to HTML from the Emily patent application frees up the language to specifically teach in the XML domain before anyone could do so.

I see. No wonder the industry "abandoned" the use of XML (as mirror claims) for functional programming.

And if this language Facebook has looks like XML but "isn't"... and if this language Facebook has looks like HTML... but isn't HTML5...

...what is it and where did it come from?

More importantly to us, I think: where is it going?

 

 

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 8:05 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 23 April 2010 10:32 PM EDT
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Sunday, 14 September 2008
Wiping the dribbles from all chins.
Mood:  chatty
Now Playing: Clicking Cookies - Clueless generation gets caught with hand in some kind of jar (nerd "humor")
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

To those agonizing over how a tiny company like VCSY can appear out of nowhere with technology that appears to supplant technologies over a decade old. I offer this discussion over the importance of Java and Javascript. See Java Smackdown below.

I tend to agree with the nerd in this discussion as I have dug through the history of Java as a smartcard effort in the mid 90''s and the ultimate use of VCSY Emily (VCSY's XML based scripting language) to build the Apollo/Transtar smartcardsystem using the latest generation smartcard technology of Jerome Svigals.

I believe an indepth analysis of events and efforts over the past 20 years would yield a not-so-pretty picture of Java in the hands of elitists attempting to kill off the advent of scripters such as resulted in Javascript adherents.

With that "compiled code is superior to script" elitism, as with all technolgical elitism, came a huge crippling of effective software development and use. Sun's Java press hit the wall some four or five years ago when their combined effort with IBM to build a complex telephony system in Germany failed to scale. That sobering event lead to a slow death of Java that continues today.

You might examine some of the things I've pointed out on this blog and elsewhere about SavaJe, a telephony effort that mysteriously vanished in 2006 only to be scooped up by Sun shortly before VCSY sued Microsoft in April 2007.

Please reference this timeline.

I commend your perusal of this timeline so you can get a stratified view of events over the span of the past few years. It can be enlightening once fleshed out with your own examples of "hey, I know an interesting coincidence". It's a great game to play with those who work in the industry. They have their own time points and event correlations that build a picture of desperate efforts and questionable strategies.

Anywho, here's the discussion for your own internal discussions. Do with it what you will.

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/one_time_only_javascript_java.php

One time only: Java-Javascript smackdown

James Fallows// The Atlantic
13 Sep 2008 11:00 pm

James Fallows writes: Blah, blah, blah, dit da dit da dit, yada yada yada...

And then he offers two views of correspondents. First the Java proponent as pointed to by the James Fallows article above:

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/about_chrome_next_in_the_serie.php
Ken Broomfield writes:

There's plenty of irony in Google's effort to create a robust client-side platform for web-based ("cloud") applications, mainly because Netscape and Sun tried and failed to do exactly this over ten years ago.  Part of this effort was led by a guy named Eric Schmidt, then at Sun, and used Java, a technology that's superior to the Javascript language that's now being used largely because Java never quite worked on the client (i.e., in the user's browser).

So, Google's effort to create a good Javascript environment in Chrome -- which is now sorely needed -- should have been unnecessary, and sophisticated web applications should have appeared a long time ago. Multiple efforts to create client-side web application platforms are now under way, with Balkanizing effect: Google with Chrome (Bosnia), Adobe with Flash/Flex/AIR (Croatia), and Microsoft with Silverlight (Serbia) [Microsoft had to be Serbia :)]. That all these platforms are inferior to what ought to have been achieved years ago with Java is a tragedy....

Little stuff:

-- On additional tabs using more and more memory, this is true in Firefox and IE, but iRider has sophisticated memory management to limit memory usage even with hundreds of pages open. Free memory is utilized to speed access to open pages, but released as other apps need it. (Everyone misses this, but it took a lot of effort.)

-- Firefox, IE and iRider can leak memory, though Firefox is notoriously worse than the others here. (Opera, another browser the press now ignores, does a great job in this department.) But often what seem to be leaks can also be mere memory fragmentation, as when a room seems full but is actually just cluttered. It's not clear that Chrome solves the fragmentation problem, which is trickier. (The paged virtual memory environment in modern OSes mitigates some of the problems of fragmentation, but also makes it trickier to solve completely.).

-- Entering search queries in the Address Bar has been possible in IE since version 5 and iRider from the start. And in iRider, to quickly run multiple searches, say "Palin moose", "Palin bridge to nowhere" and "Palin Alaska secession", hit Shift-Enter after each. 

The good news is that Chrome will be open source and may be very useful to us and others.

------------ separator between correspondent views ------------

And here, an anonymous nerd writes:

My correspondent writes:

... I am a nerd.  As such, I'm afraid I have to dispute a bit of what your friend Ken Broomfield, the founder of iRider (which I've downloaded and am evaluating now), wrote to you about the early days of web application development. 

From a developer's perspective, Java was far too complicated and the performance of the Java Virtual Machine far too poor to be useful for web applications in the early days of the internet. 

Broomfield refers to Java as a "technology that's superior to the Javascript language" and suggests that JavaScript "should have been unnecessary, and sophisticated web applications should have appeared a long time ago," but that's false.  As programming (or scripting) languages go, JavaScript has always been relatively easy to learn and has allowed developers (and businesses) to rapidly develop useful web applications. 

The same is not true of the strict and complex Java programming language.  Good Java programmers were (and still are) few and expensive; good web technology (JavaScript/CSS/HTML) developers were (and still are) abundant and less expensive and, again, the performance of JVMs in web browsers was crap until recently.

Web application development has evolved along with PC hardware and available consumer bandwidth.  YouTube was not possible 10 years ago; it is now thanks to Flash, faster machines and the fact that a great many people have broadband internet connections.  Flash, not Java.  Java is still far too complex, and Java developers far too expensive, for client-side web development.  Java is, more often than not, not the right tool for client-side web application development.  It is a "superior" technology in the same way that a jackhammer is superior to an ordinary hammer for driving a nail into a wall.

Additionally, the "Balkanizing effect" that Broomfield sees in the current competition between "inferior" client-side web technologies offered by Adobe, Microsoft and web browser developers (Google did not invent JavaScript; they have, however, developed Gears and their own JavaScript interpreter to improve JS performance and to mimic some of the functionality offered by desktop applications) is merely healthy competition between companies that would like to sell software tools (in the case of Adobe and Microsoft) or advertising (in the case of Google).  He seems to suggest that Sun's Java should have been accepted as the standard years ago and that Sun should be rewarded, in one way or another, for enabling the rest of us to develop "sophisticated" web applications now and forever.

Java failed as a client-side web application technology for good reasons and web applications are evolving at a reasonable and steady rate.  Like many nerds, I am excited by the possibilities presented by the current crop of web (and mobile; the line is getting blurry) technologies and am thankful that I don't have to spend my days coding in Java.
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There is much that may be discussed and one day all of it will spill out, but, for now, remember this: Not everything you know is real. Not every thing that's real you know. I know it's a basic observation but sometimes you have to be dragged back to a basic to make sense of the world around you.

Oh, and one more thing, I commend this article offered by James Fallows to your reading so you can get an overview of Chrome. You'll need one to make sense out of what will happen over the next few years.

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/090808-google-chrome-under-the-hood.html

We are in the beginnings of the first public views of a disruption wave moving through the software industry. If you keep yourself educated (and it doesn't take any more effort than reading and learning by accident) you will be more equipped to profit from the disruption far more effectively than your more ignorant brethren and sisterns.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:03 AM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 14 September 2008 1:05 AM EDT
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Wednesday, 23 May 2007
All in the past? Or tomorrow?
Mood:  hungry
Now Playing: 'Hopalong Crappity' Bandits get railroaded into a stampede where the dogies get their way. (Wild West/Fashion)
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

It's not just for telephones anymore!... or wasn't a couple years ago, anyway. 

Verizon Signs Disney, About to Launch in Texas

From Matthew Torres
Your Guide to TV / Video
Wednesday September 21, 2005

According to the Los Angeles Business Journal, San Antonio-based Verizon Communications Inc. has signed Walt Disney's family of television channels to its new FiOS TV programming package, which is scheduled to begin offering service in Kellar, TX, sometime this week. The Walt Disney stable of channels includes ABC Family, Disney Channel, ESPN stations, Toon Disney and SOAPnet.

The Los Angeles Business Journal also reports that Verizon is about to ink another programming deal with News Corp, the television giant owned by Rupert Murdoch. Read More

My Thoughts: In case you missed it, Verizon is entering the television business. While they should give cable and satellite companies a run for their money, the bottom line is that they are about to enter the dirty world of being a pay-for-service television provider. In order to steal customers away from the entrenched cable and satellite companies, Verizon will surely have to be better in almost every facet. Verizon is expecting to service about 3-million people by the end of the year. A lot of their survival will depend on how the government reacts regarding telecommunications companies entering a once forbidden market place.

Something to Think About: Disney President and CEO Robert A. Iger said, "We commend Verizon for doing its part in promoting legitimate channels for content distribution and for its leadership in helping curb Internet-based copyright infringement." Verizon is scheduled to announce their FiOS TV plan on Thursday, September 22. I am very curious to see if they explain how they will curb Internet-based copyright infringement, and how that will affect the way we watch television.


 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 7:37 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 7:41 PM EDT
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Monday, 14 May 2007

Mood:  not sure
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

Totally unrelated as far as we can see to the discussion at hand but I thought it useful to note this: Just farting around, mind you, but I got me some twine and I took this electronic paper and I tied it to this information website and presto bingo you got a newpaper that never gets dull. 

While there is no obvious line to VCSY we do have to consider that the Inform product seems to reverese engineer into a description of a Siteflash system essentially built around something like McAuley's original NewFlash.I've also seen something similar called SalesHound that would marshal the "local information hub" value of community news organizations and apply that to a community advertising base and facilitiation for local businesses oriented within the online version of the local newpaper entity.

So, understanding we're only shopping right now, take this: 

LG.Philips unveils world's first colour e-paper display

Posted by Emmanuelle Smith at 5:32PM, Monday 14th May 2007 LG.Philips LCD set to release the first ever colour electronic paper display - and it's the same size as a sheet of A4.

And slap that with this: Inform Technologies

And you got the answer to carbon footprint in the newspaper industry. Save trees and feel yourself a super hero.

August 2006 is an interesting turnaround for Inform.com seeing as they tried a demo in late 2005 that was disastrous. Amazing turnaround in less than a year. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:03 PM EDT
Updated: Monday, 14 May 2007 5:16 PM EDT
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Saturday, 12 May 2007
Next time they miss the cable, let them go in the drink...
Mood:  chatty
Now Playing: 'Recall The Ball' Aging spinster dreams of young love and new dancing shoes. (Comic Tragedy)
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

Microsoft is fronting web-based data storage. Remember the patent Microsoft had that was supposed to mean they 'owned XML'? It was a patent for automating folders... Is this what they're able to field without stepping on IP toes?

REMEMBER?

Developer
February 12, 2004
Microsoft Locks Up XML Patent
By Alexander Wolfe

The speculation as to whether Microsoft (Quote) intends to patent XML (define) technology is over.

Microsoft has been granted United States patent  6,687,897 for "XML script automation."

The patent, awarded by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on February 3, appears to deal with basic XML functionality. Specifically, it describes a method for unpacking multiple scripts contained within a single XML file.

According to the application filed by Microsoft, the patent involves "systems, methods and data structures for encompassing scripts written in one or more scripting languages in a single file."

"The scripts of a computer system are organized into a single file using Extensible Language Markup (XML)," Microsoft's patent document continues.

The document explained that each script is delimited by a file element and the script's instructions are delimited by a code element within each file element. When a script is executed, the file is analyzed to create a list of script names or functional descriptions of the scripts.

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Is THIS the party? Where's the snacks? Is this punch?

http://liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/05/12/windows-live-folders-beta-review.aspx

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LiveSide - News blog

Windows Live Folders beta - more info

As the last post on Windows Live Folders got a bit too long, here's further information on the Windows Live Folders service. Click to enlarge the screenshots.

After the intial signin to the service, the user is presented with the Folders homepage, showing the 3 folder types that can be created, as well as some default folders and a storage capactiy meter. After creating your own folders, these will appear on your homepage too. My storage meter says 250MB for the time being the beta should have more.

Windows Live Folders it not a difficult to use service, folder creation is straightforward, as it the uploading of files. Microsoft is aiming Windows Live Folders towards a large as market as possible, so the basic procedures need to be simple to promote adoption amongst the less tech-savy. The use of ajax to create new folders is nice, though the rest of the site could do with a little too. As we've seen with Windows Live Hotmail though, too much of a good thing can be bad.

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 7:29 PM EDT
Updated: Saturday, 12 May 2007 7:33 PM EDT
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When I push this button it goes hmmmmmmmmmm...
Mood:  chillin'
Now Playing: 'Flavored Favors' When lights go out in a Wisconsin town, only the sense of taste and smell is reliable.
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

POSCASH Goes Hmmmmm. Makes me go Hmmmmmmm also. If it doesn't make you go hmmmmm maybe your should look up IBM + Power + empath and think about virtuallized hardware and hard resources (like air conditioning to name a compfort resource).

THAT is what software plus a service should be able to achieve.

By: POSCASHFLOW
12 May 2007, 12:30 PM EDT
Msg. 185129 of 185131

You know what also makes me go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????

As some of you discussed this week Mr. Wade seems to like to give the
longs little puzzles or clues to keep us thinking while they are
in stealth mode. Just this week IBM announced ways to cut energy costs up to 80% with Virtualization Technology in data centers. Funny how Mr. Wade mentioned problems with IBM power consumption in Boston to Explore98. He also mentioned Verizon if I recall. This to
me was a clue from R.W.!

Yesterday, Verizon made this update announcement regarding the Networx Universal contract that they were awarded in March:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NYF07511052007-1.htm

Since we know that we are working with Verizon Business through Now
Solutions (Empath) from the PR back in January 07 and that on March 14th 2007 VCSY made this announcement:

Vertical Computer Systems Strengthens Security Suite Offering By Acquiring Exclusive Rights for StatePointPlus in Government and Healthcare in the United States and Canada

I believe that Mr.Wade left us another clue by adding a picture on
Verizons website from the Verizon Federal Network Security page.
This picture has the same 4 people sitting at a table wearing the same clothes (although posing differently) as the picture on VCSY's
website. Here is the link from Verizons site:
http://www.verizonbusiness.com/us/govt/ent_svcs/security/

Here is the link fro VCSY's site:
http://www.vcsy.com/aboutus/corporateprofile.php

Now I have been looking at many different technology websites and have not seen picures with these same people so I believe this picture is a clue from Mr. Wade that we are involved with the Network Security for the Verizon Federal Governments Networx contract! Think about it..... Vertical Computer Systems Strengthens Security Suite Offering By Acquiring Exclusive Rights for StatePointPlus in Government and Healthcare in the United States and Canada

This security is the best available according to Mr. Wade and we have exclusive rights to market it to the US Government! Why would'nt
it be used for the Networx contract? Really makes you go Hmmmmmmmmm!
Poscash




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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:49 PM EDT
Updated: Saturday, 12 May 2007 2:55 PM EDT
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Wednesday, 9 May 2007
Rastamazoo
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: 'Nothing Screwed Tight Like A Cabinet' Pols puzzle pontifical post-prior proclamations. (Whatda$#!@?)
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

This is a test. This is only a test. If this were the real thing you probably wouldn't know what the C:$$$!#### to do with yourselfs (pluribus).

http://slashdot.org/~rastamafoo 

It's all in how you slice the eye.

It is your author's considered opinion and speculation VCSY technology can be found at the deepest levels of US technology advancement and thus garners the kind of secrecy miscreants and malcontents can only dream of.

That given, we (meaning my accomplices here - all hundred and so of them) have ferreted out what can easily be asembled from public information found easily enough by serach on the internet today and yesterday and all for the past 7+ years.

That search started on ClearStation for me and has migrated here at the Rastama Foozle Home For The Mentally Baked. We go through wads of tinfoil here so don't go getting all uppity and confederated there with your inmagingation.

There ain' tno fool like an old fool and I've earned my place in the pantheon. If I had not said a word about any of this way back when my life would be peaceful and uncared about.

As it is I have spouted one two many blurbs off the top of the model assembled in my head and come dangerous close to disclosing things that don't exist but it would be damn cool if they did and the architecture is all here in a panorama for my head and I just ... talk too much... blab, you know... and then the mikerwaves start aiming for my peculia elongate and biffo bango I get the minder's dangles and I start thinking I can sing like Barbra... and then there's the pink chiffon thing and the Gingham exeterra exeterra exeterra and I say...

PICK BETTER FREAKING CODE WORDS YOU NITWITS! C8793yTThY is about as secure as a project directive can be, no?

DAMN.

It's like I told Mary Jo, I know I make life hard, but, it's the plants that can push up through concrete that make the hardiest stock. The rest is soup.

If I can remember my password for slashdot I'll see if I can goad a few chickens into a wrestling match. This is going to be a all wings all lips pecking no fowls barred mazola party in the center rink.

The winner gets to eat the vanquished. Just add heat and some flour and a little salt and pecker. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:25 PM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 4:28 PM EDT
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Sunday, 29 April 2007
One if by land and two if by sea. Uhhh... What if they come by air?
Mood:  accident prone
Now Playing: 'Shutting Off the Water' Dutch boy pokes hole in dike to get water for dishwashing, endangering countryside.
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

Thanks to mm-buster for this observation. Odd. Very odd.

IBM is shutting down a slew of software and services for their legacy AS/400 software stable on April 30, 2007 with no obvious indication as to what software will be taking its place to bring the legacy systems up to iSeries. This could be nothing although it has the feel of a major shift. I notice some servers of note are down tonight for maintenance and I can't help but wonder and wait.

Of Interest: IBM: Software withdrawal and service discontinuances for April 30, 2007

If you've a mind to poke, here's also a Microsoft anchorage to compare against. Includes discussion on Mono.

Microsoft with Mono

Crossing the Divide
Open source interoperability tools extend .NET applications to other platforms.

by Kathleen Richards
April 2007

One Excerpt Of Interest:

Windows World
Cross-platform development technology has been around for a while, and most corporate environments use multiple platforms, so why isn't it more mainstream? In the .NET world, the short answer is Microsoft.

Many corporations use Mono, asserts de Icaza, but have policies against "endorsements" so the information is not available publicly. A notable exception is financial services powerhouse Fiducial, which is running its trading system on Mono.

If you're committed to .NET and a Microsoft approach to application development, and you have Linux in your environment, "you should be all over Mono," advises Forrester's Goulde. "Even if you're not using Mono, you should be intimately familiar with it and should have someone in your organization on the mailing lists, as well as the discussions."

However, the early innovators all the way to the early majority are willing to take more aggressive risk management positions on these technologies. "The technology itself is very impressive, but the better mousetrap doesn't always win," says Gartner's Driver. "It has got to be delivered to the market in a context that provides low enough business risk to justify how sexy the technology is, and right now the perception of Mono is that it is not quite there yet." He adds that if Mono takes off, the real loser long-term is Java, not Microsoft.

Uhhhh... what if you're hooked through the nose to Microsoft .Net and you DON'T have Linux. Sounds like tough toenails. The clear indications to me are that IBM is retooling their mainframe packages and Microsoft is supposed to introduce some Live offerings, which, according to the nice lady writing the above Microsoft article, .Net works fine with other platforms as long as it's a Linux license from Novell. But, if you do not have Linux, your Microsoft SOA is SOL. Nuff said.

Like I've said elsewhere... there's a large gap in Microsoft's capability portfolio when it comes to actual interconnection and interoperation outside their own intellectual property range. 

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. - Attributed to the Man Behind the Curtain



Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:56 AM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:02 AM EDT
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Friday, 27 April 2007
Uhhh Yo Teach. Ovuh heya.
Mood:  d'oh
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

 

Looking at him. 

By: teachrcoach
29 Mar 2007, 12:22 AM EDT
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Anyone know what happened to Rastamafoo? After reading many of his posts and posts by many of the other knowledgeable longs like RR, Beach, Arthur,etc., and after doing a little DD myself I decided to buy some shares(not a huge amount as I am a school teacher after all!). Did Rasta get tossed or is he back under another name?


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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:01 AM EDT
Updated: Friday, 27 April 2007 3:52 AM EDT
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Saturday, 7 April 2007
Uuuuhhhhhh.... uhhhhhhhh....uhhhhhhhh
Mood:  not sure
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

http://www.computerworld.com/developmenttopics/development/webservices/story/0,10801,108184,00.html

Dow Corning Corp. purchased Systinet 2.0 in December and plans to have it in production by the end of February, said Kris Zywicki, enterprise architect at the Midland, Mich.-based company. Over the past two years, Dow Corning has built about 250 Web services, creating a services layer in its architecture that is "very unmanaged," Zywicki said. "The point here is to organize the environment for it to be more controllable," he explained. "Systinet provides a complete environment for the metadata management ... for a centralized approach to visibility." 

 

'A very interesting play.'

HP 

Mercury buys registry maker Systinet

Mercury Interactive pays $105 million to get foothold in service-oriented architecture software market.

By Martin LaMonica
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

January 9, 2006 

http://news.com.com/Mercury+buys+registry+maker+Systinet/2100-7345_3-6024366.html

HP snaps up Mercury Interactive

Plans to bolster OpenView management software with Mercury's app development products--for $4.5 billion.

By Tom Krazit
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

July 25, 2006

http://news.com.com/HP+snaps+up+Mercury+Interactive/2100-1014_3-6098351.html

 update Hewlett-Packard announced Tuesday that it will acquire management software company Mercury Interactive for $52 a share, or $4.5 billion in cash.

 Maybe NOW we'll get an idea how much one of those things costs.

Corporate malfeasance

From 4 January 2006, until its purchase by Hewlett-Packard, Mercury was been traded via Pink Sheets as a result of being delisted from the NASDAQ due to noncompliance with filing requirements[1]. This situation occurred as a result of Mercury having to restate financial results due to improprieties by executive management regarding stock options backdating. The executive officers who precipitated the delisting, Chief Executive Officer Amnon Landan, Chief Financial Officer Douglas Smith, and General Counsel Susan Skaer, resigned on November 2, 2005 when it became known that these officers were aware of, and participated in, the manipulation of stock options purchase dates on 49 occasions between 1995 and 2004. In addition to these manipulations, the Chief Executive Officer, Amnon Landan, misreported personal stock option exercise dates to increase his profit on transactions three times between 1998 and 2001. Other improprieties on Amnon Landan's part include a 1 million dollar personal loan in 1999, which was not authorized by the board of directors, and was not clearly disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC. The company is under new management.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Interactive

 Yup? Got the yips yet?

And curiouser.

http://www.motive.com/newsevents/pressreleases/pr.asp?id=5082

Mercury Interactive and Motive Sign Agreement to Extend Business Technology Optimization Leadership

$15 Million Licensing Deal To Bolster Mercury Interactive's Next Generation Application Management Offerings

Sunnyvale, CA and AUSTIN, Texas, Aug. 4, 2003

 About Motive

Motive is the leading provider of service management software for Global 1000 businesses. The Motive xi Service Management Suite enables companies to deliver and support a new class of automated, smart services that have enormous impact on business process success and customer satisfaction. Motive’s technology and approach to smart services has been proven by market leaders such as 3Com, Bell Canada, BellSouth, British Telecommunications, cablecom, Charter Communications, Cox Communications, Deutsche Telekom, Fujitsu, Hewlett-Packard, Hyperion, Microsoft Business Solutions, NTL, SBC Communications, Telewest, TELUS, Time Warner Cable, VERITAS Software, and Verizon in more than 25 million implementations worldwide. Motive was founded in May 1997 and is backed by leading venture capital firms and private investors. For more information, visit www.motive.com.

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 11:59 PM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 8 April 2007 12:30 AM EDT
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