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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Friday, 18 March 2011
Slapping the Chicken in the Nuggets
Mood:  caffeinated
Now Playing: "Who Dat Spit Like a Quarter?" Homeless find hidden SEC filings (irony laundry)
Topic: Notable Opinions

On your marks... get set...

 That makes a whole lot of sense. I agree not heari 17 Mar 2011  
11:08 PM EDT
 It's going to look pretty funny for Interwoven to 17 Mar 2011  
5:29 PM EDT
 The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree does it? 17 Mar 2011  
12:20 PM EDT
 TEPE You never answered why you said "all VCS 17 Mar 2011  
12:07 PM EDT
 So short story the guy is a pig. 17 Mar 2011  
11:56 AM EDT
 Is it because people like Biggrad and RapidRobert 17 Mar 2011  
10:58 AM EDT
 Mirror I remember you mocking Biggrad when he died 17 Mar 2011  
10:43 AM EDT
 Don't you think that's ignoring information that c 16 Mar 2011  
7:37 PM EDT
 Jhonnnyri Have you ever read the VCSY patents? Or 16 Mar 2011  
5:11 PM EDT
 TEPE I have been meaning to ask this since I saw o 16 Mar 2011  
2:53 PM EDT
 Wow. You've had this username since Friday 19-Jun- 16 Mar 2011  
1:34 PM EDT
 I realize this is a merciful society and all but b 16 Mar 2011  
12:29 PM EDT
 Hi I still see those posts on the message list so 15 Mar 2011  
6:50 PM EDT
 Looks like those guys don't want readers to be abl 15 Mar 2011  
6:42 PM EDT
 Yeah why wouldn't somebody do that if they really 15 Mar 2011  
6:24 PM EDT
 OT. I love San Antonio too. Spent time at Fort Sam 15 Mar 2011  
6:16 PM EDT
 I didn't take your words and twist them. You are t 15 Mar 2011  
6:12 PM EDT
 Oh that's right. Now I remember. You're the one th 15 Mar 2011  
6:03 PM EDT
 But you continue holding on for a payday. Isn't th 15 Mar 2011  
5:47 PM EDT
 So you spent two and a half years here doing nothi 15 Mar 2011  
5:45 PM EDT
 But if you really consider it a pos then you have 15 Mar 2011  
5:40 PM EDT
 Actually I missed college. My mom wouldn't let me 15 Mar 2011  
5:32 PM EDT
 So it sounds like you're one disappointed sharehol 15 Mar 2011  
5:31 PM EDT
 TEPE Again with the insults? Is that all you can d 15 Mar 2011  
5:25 PM EDT
 I went to a marriage counselor once and they said 15 Mar 2011  
5:18 PM EDT
 They got Steampunk so why can't I be Moonpunk? Ste 15 Mar 2011  
5:09 PM EDT
 Beats me. 15 Mar 2011  
4:58 PM EDT
 Try this A href="http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/issg/ 15 Mar 2011  
4:54 PM EDT
 Like I said tepe and somehow you don't understand 15 Mar 2011  
4:46 PM EDT
 It depends on what you classify a "disaster&q 15 Mar 2011  
4:44 PM EDT

 

 One click at a time tepe. Slow down. 15 Mar 2011  
4:42 PM EDT
 I think he manipulates enough idiots he won't miss 15 Mar 2011  
4:13 PM EDT
 I thought you wanted a comment on why VCSY doesn't 15 Mar 2011  
4:12 PM EDT
 I don't think there is really any way of knowing. 15 Mar 2011  
3:54 PM EDT
 TEPE Here's some more information about WebOS. 15 Mar 2011  
3:48 PM EDT
 Oh. I don't put much stock in politics since it's 15 Mar 2011  
3:38 PM EDT
 Companies can talk about an acquisition all they l 15 Mar 2011  
3:33 PM EDT
 One click at a time tepe. 15 Mar 2011  
3:27 PM EDT
 And that would mean that a formal offer to buy wou 15 Mar 2011  
3:17 PM EDT
 But only if the proposal was made formally, right? 15 Mar 2011  
3:05 PM EDT
 TEPE This is a reply to your post 293903 that some 15 Mar 2011  
3:05 PM EDT
 Who's spooky dude? 15 Mar 2011  
3:01 PM EDT
 So Wade is getting an ok from shareholders from wh 15 Mar 2011  
3:00 PM EDT
 Look nobody puts in as much time and energy as som 15 Mar 2011  
2:39 PM EDT
 Have you ever gotten a notice of a shareholder mee 15 Mar 2011  
2:34 PM EDT
 "Legally Wade needs to put the vote to enough 15 Mar 2011  
2:14 PM EDT
 I don't have a ton but I bought over the years. It 15 Mar 2011  
2:12 PM EDT
 If it wasn't for these message boards none of us w 15 Mar 2011  
2:00 PM EDT
 Hey stockwabbit. Simple question. Did you punch th 15 Mar 2011  
1:52 PM EDT
 What does MSFT have to do with my question? You sh 15 Mar 2011  
1:42 PM EDT
 And how do you know that? 15 Mar 2011  
1:36 PM EDT
 You learned all that a week after you bought the s 15 Mar 2011  
1:36 PM EDT
 One more point. One of the things Microsoft used a 15 Mar 2011  
12:37 PM EDT
 Why do you think HP allowed this group to call its 15 Mar 2011  
12:34 PM EDT
 But you started slamming the stock only a few days 15 Mar 2011  
12:29 PM EDT
 I think a lot of people wonder why you're here. Yo 15 Mar 2011  
12:18 PM EDT
 Another typical abusive response from tepe. If you 15 Mar 2011  
10:44 AM EDT
 And you can't type #### you have to type p i s s. 14 Mar 2011  
8:19 PM EDT
 Sorry. I thought you were branding me a pumper. So 14 Mar 2011  
8:13 PM EDT
 So I try to ask questions others try to ask but go 14 Mar 2011  
7:33 PM EDT

 

 Man are you off base. 14 Mar 2011  
7:27 PM EDT
 So you don't like the way I post? I see. Don't bot 14 Mar 2011  
7:27 PM EDT
 Yes what? Yes it's a stupid question? 14 Mar 2011  
7:25 PM EDT
 Fine. But a "formal" offer could mean al 14 Mar 2011  
7:16 PM EDT
 So you think this July 24 or July 25 will not resu 14 Mar 2011  
7:14 PM EDT
 So you don't know what a formal offer on a billion 14 Mar 2011  
7:11 PM EDT
 If companies don't think they are infringing why w 14 Mar 2011  
7:10 PM EDT
 Stockwabbit. What does "thump" mean? 14 Mar 2011  
7:03 PM EDT
 And at what stage would buying a billion shares be 14 Mar 2011  
6:57 PM EDT
 Why do you think the settlement will be small? 14 Mar 2011  
6:53 PM EDT
 Are you saying Wade would have to put every offer 14 Mar 2011  
6:50 PM EDT
 What do you mean newbie? I've been watching for a 14 Mar 2011  
6:30 PM EDT
 Excuse me johnnnyri but it sure appears you say no 14 Mar 2011  
6:10 PM EDT
 Samsung and LG are just now talking settlement. Ar 14 Mar 2011  
6:09 PM EDT
 Maybe. 14 Mar 2011  
6:07 PM EDT
 I think they've made progress toward bringing the 14 Mar 2011  
5:49 PM EDT
 But not before they drove the price down to nothin 14 Mar 2011  
5:46 PM EDT
 I see LG and Samsung talking settlement and that w 14 Mar 2011  
5:44 PM EDT
 I'm not saying you are bashing VCSY. I'm saying no 14 Mar 2011  
5:23 PM EDT
 I am talking like this is a publicly traded compan 14 Mar 2011  
5:18 PM EDT
 How would anybody start a lawsuit based on what th 14 Mar 2011  
4:33 PM EDT
 If VCSY turns out to be what is said there is no d 14 Mar 2011  
4:00 PM EDT
 I'm just saying when you're looking at a crowd ask 14 Mar 2011  
3:40 PM EDT
 It looks like more than just a few. If what they'r 14 Mar 2011  
3:26 PM EDT
 Excuse me but would you mind telling everybody how 14 Mar 2011  
2:42 PM EDT
 OT: I know this isn't a political board and I thin 12 Mar 2011  
10:05 AM EST
 According to the "first to file" rule it 11 Mar 2011  
6:40 PM EST
 Looks to me like it's like I said that lawyers are 11 Mar 2011  
6:18 PM EST
 Well no offense but as much time as you people see 11 Mar 2011  
4:33 PM EST
 Looks like some sensitive people. Do you have a gu 11 Mar 2011  
4:27 PM EST

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:46 PM EDT
Updated: Sunday, 12 June 2011 6:56 PM EDT
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Tuesday, 7 December 2010

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20040608013838/http://emilysolutions.com/Papers/vhll.html#section1

 

(excerpts)
Frederick Brooks, in his famous article "Essence and Accidents of Software Engineering" (IEEE Computer Magazine, April 1987) gives an excellent explanation of the situation: large software systems are the most complex artifacts of human civilization; the very property of software that makes it so useful (its malleability) also makes software very difficult to produce. Brooks poses a question to sum up the entire problem: Why has the cost-to-performance ratio of computer hardware decreased by five orders of magnitude in the last 30 years, while the cost-to-performance ratio of software has not improved by even a single order of magnitude?

---------------------

That was written ten years ago so the question has compounded in importance. The situation in general hasn't changed. In fact, given the stagnation and waste generated by the many dead-ends, restatements, and missed opportunities costing the clients of the computing world at large, the situation has gotten much worse.

And people like mirror laugh about it because they know they're stealing their customers blind. He likes that because he claims it proves him right.

That's a condemnation of development techniques considered the rule within the software industry for the past four decades.

I suggest the reader work through the following and do so with an open mind:


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:30 PM EST
Updated: Friday, 18 March 2011 1:13 PM EDT
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Tuesday, 16 November 2010
One tarpit and lots of animals facing extinction.
Mood:  flirty
Now Playing: "Stuck in GUI" Adventurers find their shrunken heads boxed. (adult implements)
Topic: Reference

VCSY follows up Interwoven's lawsuit of October 14, 2010 attempt to have portions of patents 6826744 and 7716629 ruled invalid and unenforceable:

Interwoven versus Vertical Computer

with one of their own November 15, 2010:

Vertical Computer versus Interwoven, LG and Samsung


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:35 PM EST
Updated: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 3:49 PM EST
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Wednesday, 11 August 2010
Pokin' the PorkyPine
Mood:  accident prone
Now Playing: "Pink PookyPie" Flatulent landlord causes explosive landrush (kitchenus physicis)
Topic: Gurgle

Once upon a time an idea is so basic and good it sticks around and festers until it pops.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/08/opinion/08cringeley.html

Several years ago, the company found a way to build a data center quickly and easily by simply filling a warehouse with stacked shipping containers — each one filled with computers. You just plug the containers together and flip the switch. Clever.

Google actually borrowed the shipping container concept from The Internet Archive, a digital library, which envisioned using such containers to replicate its archive in locations all around the world. Once Larry Page, a co-founder of Google, learned how they could work, he saw shipping containers as a way for Google, too, to get its data closer to users.

Proximity to users is important because of the way that data moves around the Internet — by hopping from one router to another. Each router looks at the packet of data and sends it on in the appropriate direction; the average data packet hops 18 times as it makes its way across the Internet. Because each hop takes time — only a matter of milliseconds, but still measurable time — the best way to speed transmission is to reduce the hops. This can be done either by creating a figurative fast lane, which violates net neutrality, or by simply putting the data closer to the user, which doesn’t.

Google’s agreement with Verizon could very well be merely a way for Google to get its data closer to users, by dropping its shipping containers into Verizon data centers, or perhaps their parking lots. The phone company’s data centers, after all, are typically only one or two hops from Internet users.

 

So... having gateways geophysically close to users (as in one's home country) is more than just a gimmick, isn't it? Why, yes it is. It's an understanding of how latency damages the experience and immediacy breeds intimacy.

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:21 AM EDT
Updated: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 4:27 AM EDT
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Friday, 23 April 2010
Wandering Over the Tire Tracks.
Mood:  d'oh
Now Playing: "Lifting the Lamp" Old Gaslighter sticks his wick in an explosive mixture (silent movings)
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

I had a little problem storing this here:

 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=138578&l=ef1fc615be&id=100000645764055

 

So I figgered I would put it here for safe keeping.

 

Perhaps I should save some of this for the record. You never know when things will get lost from those message boards.

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/XFBML

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_V/threadview?m=ts&bn=33693&tid=33154&mid=33154&tof=1&frt=2
facebook and iframe/an 
asp.net 23-Apr-10 05:36 pm 
http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/inde...

and what is xfbml...a 
markup language...

how does this connect to the adobe flash issue?

portuno, et al ...guys, your thoughts?

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 23-Apr-10 05:50 pm 
It's a semi-propriatary subset of HTML with special tags and API's for facebook functionality. I wonder when they will start migrating to HTML5. :)


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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:40 pm 
That's funny. It doesn't look like HTML. Are you telling us FBML is HTML? Really? So, is it part of HTML5? Or is this another brand that 
Facebook just decided to hack together, to hell with HTML5?

Looks like XML to me. The guy in the below article thinks it looks like XML also.

As I've said, it's easy to hide hardware. But it's difficult to hide language. There is always going to be some breadcrumb laying around to give the game away.

And, if you're concerned about being pegged for IP violation, perhaps it's best to simply try to keep the mouth shut. But, like I said, breadcrumbs break off right at the outside boundary of the mouth:

http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/03/is-facebook-markup-language-fm.html
Is Facebook Markup Language (FBML) HTML, XML or some homemade demon spawn of the two?
By 
Rick Jelliffe
March 25, 2009

I was browsing at the local Kinokuniya bookstore yesterday, and I flipped through the O'Reilly book on FBML. Now I have no particular interest in FBML, but I was interested in that book steered clear of any issues relating to syntax. No mention of XML in the index, or in the introduction, yet it clearly used namespace prefixes and empty element syntax, so it looked like XML.

I wondered to myself if this represented some new stage of XML's ubiquity, where XML is such a given it does not even need to be stated, let alone explained. But looking through the FBML website has left me uncertain.

The FBML material never seems to say that it is XML: but it frequently talks of HTML: FBML is an evolved subset of HTML. Now there are things that definitely are spoken of as XML: for example it has a "DTD" (actually an XML Schema.) And there is something called XFBRL intended to be put in XHTML.

There are hints such as:

If you're formatting the tag as FBML, 
you don't need to use a closing tag.
"<fb:name uid="12345" />"

If you're formatting the tag as XFBML for Facebook Connect, 

you must use a closing tag.

"<fb:name uid="12345"></fb:name>"


As near as I can work out, FBML is designed to look like XML but not necessarily be well-formed. But I really don't know, because the documentation is interested in element and attribute names, not syntax. From that, I would guess either that there is some hedging of bets going on about formats, or that there is a single editor application that is being documented, which looks after the syntax.

Does any reader have any pointers to better information?

(By the way, I am quite sympathetic to the idea that XML's Draconian WF handling is excessive for user-oriented web documents, which the title of this piece may not make entirely clear.)

(more at URL)
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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:41 pm 
(continued from previous post)
I'm fascinated people think an XML based functional language would depend on a parser and wouldn't know what to do if it found a syntax anomaly.... like a name starting with a number ...

Would it not make sense the underlying XML processor would route data word and content to data processing and route command word and content to command processing?

It's not really hard to figure out unless you're trying to hide the language. Then the view you see doesn't make sense. Like the industry pouring their hearts into XHTML then abandoning it in favor of doing the same thing in HTML... for no real discernible reason than the ball of goo it would take to teach how to process command XML properly.

One would have to have already worked out all that kind of hoorah years ago... like the 521 patent did ten years ago.

So. XFBML.... XML or HTML? Looks like XML actually. But, like mirror says, XML can ONLY be used to describe data. That's what he says and he's supposed to be the expert.

It's just that this Facebook language just doesn't look right, does it? Hmmmm. Why would something not look right?

Why would a real tank seen from far away look like a cardboard tank close up? Odd. Isn't it?

Do you think this oddity could have something to do with Facebook being able to announce this latest ability to interoperate with just about every other social platform? ... and with Microsoft?

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:42 pm 
So Facebook just "made up" a language, huh?

Pretty reckless engineers and managers over there, don't you think?

(continued from previous post)

By chuck on March 26, 2009 11:26 AM | Reply
This won't validate in an xml parser:
"<fb:18-plus>Oooh la laBarney?</fb:18-plus>"

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Fb:18-plus

So it is a demon spawn.

By Rick Jelliffe in reply to comment from chuck on March 26, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply
Because a name cannot start with a digit!

By Sean Blakey on March 26, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply
Homemade demon spawn from a PHP shop.
libfbml actually uses libraries from firefox to render the "approved" subset of HTML with FBML enhancemens into a safe DOM structure, which is then serialized back into HTML for output to clients.

By len on March 28, 2009 10:34 PM | Reply
Gonna fight well-formedness? HA!
Good idea in one respect: If XML is so strict the user has to know it all to use it, it's only going to be used well by strict users. Any guesses how many people out there know the rules of XML that well? I don't. :-(

By Chuck on March 29, 2009 4:12 AM | Reply
It's not that tough to deal with XML, len. Just use a validating parser to catch problems. There are free ones all over the internet.

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net 
23-Apr-10 06:45 pm 
So if you people are depending on a company to point to their new enhanced and highly efficient language and say "Oh, by the way, the secret sauce has mayo in it." you're going to be plenty ignorant for plenty long. At least until the confidentiality period is over.

If you don't look, you don't study. If you don't study, you don't learn. If you don't learn, you don't move. If you don't move, you get stepped on.

Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     23-Apr-10 06:47 pm    
The Nuts and Bolts of FBML

FBML isn’t quite HTML and isn’t quite proprietary. The closest analog I can think of is ColdFusion, ironically the language in which MySpace is written. FBML consists of a subset of HTML (no script tags, for example) and a set of proprietary extensions. 

These extensions act like HTML tags and can be divided into two broad classes: markup tags and procedural tags. Markup tags include UI elements and are generally directly translated into HTML. The fb:header tag, for example, produces the HTML for a Facebook-style header. 

Other tags like fb:if-can-see have a programmatic component. In this case the content between the tags is rendered only if the current user has permission to do whatever is specified in the tag’s attributed.



Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     27 minutes ago    
You know what's really ironic? The original Emily patent application mentioned Coldfusion as one of the things closest to anything prior art about Emily.

Thanks for that explanation mirror. It begins to make more sense now.

No wonder Apple is afraid of Adobe.

So, let's see. A language that isn't really HTML and isn't really XML but is a fusion of both.

Yep. That sounds about right.

"Other tags like fb:if-can-see have a programmatic component. In this case the content between the tags is rendered only if the current user has permission to do whatever is specified in the tag’s attributed."

OK. So the underlying ecosystem regulates who has permissions and who does not and that determines the behaviours of the language components.

Right. Got that.


Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     16 minutes ago    
Are you trying to imply that Facebook is powered by Emily? HAhahahahahahahaha!


Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     14 minutes ago    
I'm trying to find out why Facebook's programming language looks like programmatic XML and smells like programmatic XML when everybody's so busy (especially you) saying it's not even XML.

Any ideas? 

 

 

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     28 minutes ago    

Because XML is a markup language like HTML and they can look similar with those ugly tags and all.

  

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     8 minutes ago    

I see. So how are you so certain it's HTML? You usually don't seem disposed to believe marketing writeups but you whole heartedly appear to believe those that make your case.

Like I said, languages are hard to hide because what they look like is what usually sticks out from under the tarp.

And if Facebook has "made up" a language that looks like XML but YOU swear is HTML... OK.

Then it's not HTML5 either, is it?

So Facebook, according to your reading, has gone rogue and decided screw XML and screw HTML5 WE'RE GOING TO WRITE OUR OWN LANGUAGE!!!

Yeah. 

That just doesn't sound like reasonable people running a company.

Could it be they want this whole "XML programming/HTML5 rescue of XHTML desires" controversy to be resolved before they come out and tell the world how Facebook came up with this "brand new language" and are now able to interoperate not only with Microsoft but everyone else and yet are not calling it HTML5... or letting the rest of the HTML5 community in on how they're doing the functionality Facebook is doing with markup?

I didn't think HTML5 was that far along. In fact, as far as anyone knows, HTML5 is only right now trying to conquer the video hurdle. 

In fact, the standards bodies W3C and WHATWG don't seem to carry any mention of the kind of programmatic markup commands being used in Facebook XFBML.

WTF????

Did something happen we're not seeing? Is somebody hiding something? What do you think?

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     1 minute ago    

FBML is a nonstandard form of HTML with proprietary extensions that are Facebook-specific. I don't know why you find this difficult to accept. I gave you a link. There are plenty of HTML variations out there. What's the big deal?

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     6 second(s) ago    

This is the big deal.

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_V/threadview?m=ts&bn=33693&tid=33154&mid=33173&tof=1&rt=2&frt=2&off=1

Facebook's markup language for executing programmatic functionality seems to look like XML and act like XML and not necessarily HTML.

But you insist it's HTML. Just "non-standard".

So it's not HTML5. It's a new language Facebook made to appear to be HTML... that looks and acts more like XML would.

Just curious.

You know me. I can't let anything rest. If something's sticking out from under a cover, I have to lift the cover and ask what's under there.

You know, if Facebook is moving the ball like this, then the rest of the vendors and users waiting for more HTML5 functionality are screwed. Facebook and Microsoft appear to be sneaking off the field with the ball.

 

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Re: facebook and iframe/an asp.net     3 minutes ago    

Yeah. In fact, the only difference between XML and HTML is the underlying processing of the tags and vocabulary syntax.

So HTML and XML are only separated by semantics.

So HTML has prior art as a programming language... so HTML5 can't claim any novelty in using HTML to build programmatic functional operation.

But XML is well known for ONLY being designed and used to describe data and data structure.

So any first use of XML as a programmatic functional language... is novel; it's an extension of the use cases of the XML family toward something entirely new.

And HTML? Not.

No wonder they took the HTML verbiage out of the Emily patent application. That would not be patentable because HTML has prior art in that area before circa 1999.

But XML does not have prior art in that are before circa 1999.

So, removing the references to HTML from the Emily patent application frees up the language to specifically teach in the XML domain before anyone could do so.

I see. No wonder the industry "abandoned" the use of XML (as mirror claims) for functional programming.

And if this language Facebook has looks like XML but "isn't"... and if this language Facebook has looks like HTML... but isn't HTML5...

...what is it and where did it come from?

More importantly to us, I think: where is it going?

 

 

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 8:05 PM EDT
Updated: Friday, 23 April 2010 10:32 PM EDT
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Monday, 15 March 2010
The moody mush of a midnight munchkin
Mood:  cheeky
Now Playing: "Pithed Off" Speech impediment prevents inventors from telling their stories (confidential chronicles)
Topic: Apple Fritters
Apparently Tim Bray managed to excuse himself from the setting Sun and found somebody to use his XML skills... such as they were. Why didn't Tim Bray come up with the 6826744 or 7076521 concepts if they were so "obvious" to those skilled in XML?
 
Maybe he'll tell us somewhere in here:
 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/03/15/Joining-Google 
 
Nothing personal, Tim. I just can't stand people who try to dodge intellectual property issues for the greater good of ones employers and think that equates to being a "good sport". 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:54 PM EDT
Updated: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:03 PM EDT
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Wednesday, 24 February 2010
Where have all the powers gone?
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So, I have only one question.

If patent 6826744 and 7076521 are unenforceable, where are the flood of products that should be out there by now based on the patents?

Not.

We do see Microsoft pressing full steam ahead but that's to be expected. We know they have a license for 6826744 from July 2008.

Based on Microsoft's descriptions of Windows Mobile 7 they appear to be able to use 7076521.

but ...

We don't see Google, or Adobe or IBM trumpeting anything close.

Open-source? Amazon just licensed what Microsoft has. Just how "unenforceable" is this brave new web-based computing world?

Apparently not very.

If you don't believe it, simply enter a comment and explain why. I'm all ears... and fingers.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 11:57 AM EST
Updated: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:24 PM EST
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Just an update on the discussion topics of the "Who's Who On The MessageBoards?" Facebook Group. Feel free to join and participate in the discussions

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Who's who?

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The Software Industry

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RagingBull VCSY

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Yahoo VCSY

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 1:17 AM EST
Updated: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 1:22 AM EST
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Monday, 22 February 2010

I think it safe to say VCSY shareholders past and present would like to know just who this person is and what his connection with the affairs around the company might be.

The burning question would need a satisfying answer as to how an individual can justify spending years on a daily basis attacking shareholders.

265070   How many SUCKERS can a SUCKER SUCK if the SUCKER mrrrfk 2/22/10 02:45 PM
265069   Has Wade gotten back to any of you losers yet? LOL mrrrfk 2/22/10 02:30 PM
265068   What happened to emilysolutions.com? Anyone???     mrrrfk 2/22/10 02:29 PM
265067   emilysolutions.com is DEAD??? Very telling. Sad.  LOL.   mrrrfk 2/22/10 02:04 PM
265066   RIP emilysolutions.com: Guess nobody wants this crappy product. Must be too revolutionary for everyone. LMAO!  mrrrfk 2/22/10 01:35 PM

I think it's a question shareholders will pursue relentlessly until that question is answered for the indicated poster and all who have accommodated him.

 

I would agree the trashers do more to keep the VCSY story alive than all the posts shareholders make. An example:

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=265072


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:05 PM EST
Updated: Monday, 22 February 2010 3:14 PM EST
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I think it would be safe to say all VCSY shareholders past and present and future would like to know who this person is and why he sees fit to spend years on a day by day basis attacking the shareholders.

265070   How many SUCKERS can a SUCKER SUCK if the SUCKER 0 stars   mrrrfk
2/22/10 02:45 PM
265069   Has Wade gotten back to any of you losers yet? LO 0 stars   mrrrfk
2/22/10 02:30 PM
265068   What happened to emilysolutions.com? Anyone??? 0 stars   mrrrfk
2/22/10 02:29 PM
265067   emilysolutions.com is DEAD??? Very telling. Sad. 1 stars   mrrrfk
2/22/10 02:04 PM
265066   RIP emilysolutions.com: Guess nobody wants this c 1 stars   mrrrfk
2/22/10 01:35 PM

 

 

 


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