Mood:  smelly

Tonight in our BBP studios we have noted explorer and professor of anthropology Colonel Smithely Worthington Crumweld the third Earl of Dowdy, Duke of Cobbin and Fourth Godson to the Archbishop Pinkel T. Piddling of Counting Alworth.

Colonel, welcome.

brack... ahem... phfsstt... you're quite welcome, my dear.

Professor, perhaps you can relate to our viewers what exciting times you've had living, as it were, amongst  the heathen Wanga Pangy of Catalina. I hear they are a fiercely competitive tribe.

Ah... blubboom... living, as it were is quite the description as these foolish heathen have no respect for decent deliberation and doting. One must make decisions very carefully, especially in the jungle...

I see. It must have been a...

THERE WE WERE... poised... to enter... our portered canoes to risk the treacherous passage down Goneanddoneit Creak which empties out into Lake Wwwhadafkhapend  and we were mesmerized by the hypnotic ritual dance of the Getdafkowtahe tribe of tree-dwellers taking over the general commerce on the piece of land known as the 'Mooka maka wika wonka shempa groopa pooh' or 'Place where bufallo butt get stuck in twin tree fork'.

Charming name, Professor, but I was wonder... 

THE CULTISTS... as they must be called for they are fanatically dedicated to their homeland and property having endured many incursions and insults over the years... are solidly socialized under a loose system of drums and smoke signals which allow them to stay informed on a community wide basis. Their knowledge of ancient events and names and stories is fanatcial, their celebration of key ancestral milestones is keen and enthuriastic and their vision for a utopia filled with pineapple breezes and fiberglass boats ... these people with primitive social skills and quick wits and even quicker recall of facts and historical events are usually quite mellow and calm.

I see... wha....

BUT, WHEN ONE COMES THROUGH their areas making so much as to give a "smell your stink" type of expression or as the Pangy call it  'pucka wookie noka noogoo ninka wachit etdomorow' the tribe erupts like a nest of nak-nak fleas infesting the entire hill with gnawing commentary and provocative jabs. A nest the size of this on that dead bull carcass over there is big enough to infest every gnawing doubt in any crevice within a hundred miles of here... you see.

Ahhh.. THEY ARE PRONE!... to head shrinking and many have found themselves witlessly defending less and less of their original intellectual standing and self-respect in hopes of escaping the confrontation with a shred of previous form or favor. Defense of a posting position quickly becomes a fight for social survival and dignity once in the jaws of the ever vigilant and noble Getdafkowtahe.

How nice... wel....

THE DANCE is called 'wha nook nook no maka poka binga wanga wook' better known in this country as the 'blue suede booboo' and is performed whenever territorial disputes are brought foreward. The dances themselves may be highly unique but usually result in impassioned posturing, highly accurate and effective spear throwing, often degenerating to mudslinging and perhaps scatological displays of varying repugnance but all with a strategy from the socialized mass and watchers ready to steer the mass in the direction of the tenderest meats... uhhh... as it were... and the...

FASCINATING, PROFESSOR. I'm sure we all hope you will be returning to that lovely land soon...

Well, my dear, I am a bit too old for the rigours of the trail, as it were, but I do like to shake a nook nook here and there and I am wont to pick up a handful of mud or other pulpy mass to aid whatever defense I might need press against an enemy's thrusts, so to speak. But, I can assure you, in the end, you will find that scoundrel's head will be far smaller than my own... which I might say, is quite promin...

THANK YOU Professor  and for the BBP... good night.

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 7:02 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 7:03 PM EDT

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Mood:  don't ask

Come in Car 30. Green Wienie calling.

Uhhh... Car 30 here.

What's your 20?

Twenty?

Location.

Oh. Right. My twenty is outside the cult headquarters. They got some music blaring on the loudspeaker and it's really groovy... hey sweety, what's your name. Wanna talk to Mister Mikerphone?... heh heh... what's your friend's na... click

Car 20. Green Wienie. Over... Car 20 Green Weinie... Damn it. Lost another patrol to that damn Cult of the Denuded Treefort. They're Satarists, I tell ya. Ever last damn one of them is out to piss me off. Wha... wha... what's THAT? Up in the sky?. 

See THAT? It's a omen! Them cultists are coming after me. Aaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh. 

Was that the Police Commissioner? 

I think so.

Hmmm... Looks like THIS stakeout is blown. You going over to the cult party tonight?

Yep. Soon as I can drop off my nightstick.

Hey, look. Here's a pamphlet the Commissioner dropped. Looks like it was put out by his church, The Recrustificated Church of the Piously Puckered. Here's their deacon Brother Nosterinuimus Bumfustead DD pFUD and no JOB.

By: DC-Steve
10 May 2007, 03:46 PM EDT
Msg. 184844 of 184859

Courtesy of Wikipedia [with my commentary in brackets]:

Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. During Groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group's balance. The term is usually used as a derogatory term after the results of a bad decision.


Symptoms of groupthink

-- A feeling of invulnerability creates excessive optimism and encourages risk taking. [invulnerability - as in the belief one can see the future in precise detail and this vision is not vulnerable to error. Even when it's obvious to almost everyone there are too many variables to have great confidence in any predictions about the specific scenario in question]

-- Discounting warnings that might challenge assumptions. [as in warnings that no one knows with any certainty what the future holds in store for us . . . other than death]

-- An unquestioned belief in the group's morality, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions. [Your group's cause is noble and your vision of the future is irrefutably destined to come true, so without even really thinking about it you decide it's morally OK to follow the leaders by practicing random character assassination when you have no reason to believe any of your accusations are true and by intentionally deceiving random strangers who read a message board. It's for their own good, after all.]

-- Stereotyped views of enemy leaders. [including IMAGINARY enemies I would add]

-- Pressure to conform against members of the group who disagree. [any former Friends of Portuno and RapidRob who got kicked out of their VCSY club for your acts of apostasy will immediately recognize this symptom]

-- Shutting down of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus. [no need for this any more - everyone left in the club is not currently capable of independently forming their own ideas]

-- An illusion of unanimity with regards to going along with the group. [may not be an illusion any more in the case of the VCSY cult]

-- Mindguards — self-appointed members who shield the group from dissenting opinions. [Hey, sounds like they've met RapidRob!]
 

Bwaaaahh ha ha haaa that's too funny. Hey, bring that with you tonight and we can let some of the treefort sisters give us their interpretation of "Pressure to conform against members of the group who disagree". Bring the cuffs.

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:58 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 6:03 PM EDT

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Mood:  chillin'

Heck, you all didn't get to see a slice of ProgrammersHeaven in the past posts: ajaxamine.tripod.com/index.blog/1666399/no-xml-bad-smell/ March 31, 2007 No XML Bad Smell.

Ya see that little fanny warmer? They don't make them no more. This one's gonna be pricells one day. Priceless.

And y'all came by on a lucky day. The kid ain't hrere so we can have a converstin'. Now, if my grandpapy was here to see me flaunt the family joules as it were he would have my head with his Cornfederate cutlass. But... he ain't here so damn his compost pile and here's his pride and joy. THE FIRST except for a few cussin's a might earlier, post of the famous Portuna_Dynamo.

That there's a original Clearstation. Must be near eight years old by now. Worth a pretty penny at a pawn shop if you bring a vacuum cleaner or a tv with you.

Oh... this is a good one. This is right after VCSY stock crashed http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1104164&usernm=Portuno_Diamo. 
You can still smell kind of like burnt hair when you unfold it.  

Here's some stuff about the roadmap and if you compare that with developmentgateway.org it looks like the same idea. AND THIS WAS 2000!

http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1110343&usernm=Portuno_Diamo 

This is grandpa when he found gold in a box of papers:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1114211&usernm=Portuno_Diamo
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1157645&usernm=Portuno_Diamo 

Here;s grandpa after he ate at some hole in the wall place:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1122392&usernm=Portuno_Diamo

Here's a box of maps:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1131679&usernm=Portuno_Diamo
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1132951&usernm=Portuno_Diamo
 

Here's his badge:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1167521&usernm=Portuno_Diamo 

And a nightstick:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1152271&usernm=Portuno_Diamo 

Here's a noodlenuckel:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1157645&usernm=Portuno_Diamo

This here's grandpa on a tirade:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1999464&usernm=Portuno_Diamo 

Here's a citation for surviving the grungion data war in ought three:

By: keeasha
06 Jun 2003, 08:50 AM EDT
Msg. 113876 of 184849

OT: Portuno D. You appear to have correctly called the msft failed attempt re; biz apps, biz talks,, Linux coupled with ####/## is proving to be a far more IT superior prod service line,,, Merely an observation, Ki??

Don't see many like this anymore. Wait a minute that ain't right we see a whole bunch like this around now. But one thing's changed. Microsoft can't do this sort of stuff anymore unless it gets the blue craps, So how much will you give me for the whole truckload?. 

Daddy what's the blue craps?

Uhhh... damn... Jilly you scared the crusty crabs off me. Where'd y'all come from?

We was gone to visit grandpa at the congo essence home.

Huh? Oh. Whats in the paper bag?

Don't open it!

Aaaacckkkkkkkk oh god My Darth Vader Helmet! 

It's Darlene's throwup. She filled it like a bucket of chicken.

gggggnnnnnnnacccckk oh god please

Yep. Chunks like oyster fondew.

aaeeeeyyccckk gnaaaah

Why you wrenching? Mama! Daddy's throwed up on the rose bushes. Sara go get a wet rag and a beer.

Why do I always have to take orders from you?

Because you're afraid of what can happen while you're asleep.

If you want any more posts by portuno_diamo pushed the button next to: Messages By Member: Portuno_Diamo

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:31 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 4:32 PM EDT

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Mood:  quizzical

And Microsoft is all, like, 'we can do that too'. So where is it June 2003? IBM said they were into Web Services. MSFT said they were in too Web Services too.

We see IBM's web services all the way back from here to there consistently engaged. We's been watching Microsoft duck and weave from here back to there but we STILL don't see MSFT's web services.

What gives?

By: 4sirius1
07 Jun 2003, 10:53 AM EDT
Msg. 113966 of 184832
(This msg. is a reply to 79186 by ÿinvalid_sender.)

***A VERTICAL FUTURE***

Take a look at this older but descriptive article to remind you of the vision and the opportunities before
Vertical. See post# 71968.

I've heard it also means $7 trillion in business
conducted on the Net over the next several years. The article underlines the net effect on business as 12%
added to revenues and 42% reduction in labor costs.

What companies will be able to afford not to have that capability in the future???

Vertical is worth many times more than it's current market cap of $3 million using the pocket calculator. But we're using it to look forward.

Now use some judgment after you consider what Vertical offers to Global E-Commerce.


By the way, it has become old research that Web Services
from IBM, MSFT and others would begin to ramp up in the
3rd quarter 2003--we may be on the cusp.

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sniff sniff bbblllllaaaaattt fried oysters

Makes me nostalgic when I was posting on Raging Bull. It's like gettting run out of the tenements but I'd a much rather walked out on my own. That 79186 by ÿinvalid_sender. That's me. I used to call myself ÿinvalid when I went into bars full of Svedish waitresses.

No I'm kidding, silly. Svedish is not a real word. You can see 79186 isn't a valid message either. That's because it was removed. I was once a proud portuno_diamo on raging bull but they took me off at recy43's insistence and silenced the tomes for ever... well, not exactly, I went over to PHeaven (my card: http://www.programmersheaven.com/c/authorpage.asp?AuthorID=118252 ) where I was joined by a grope of likeminded RB longs and made a public site there As VCSY - A Laughing Place [aka the treefort, Port Uno, Winky's Wicked Wicker aimed at a special audience and a backchannel [most likeely still as I see many still log on - no doubt to likewise backchannel pro and con - pheaven was a delight for wringing out speculation - much of the long cockiness you see on RB is due to the degree of certainty they've reached  in their DD and projection of facts they have found with the likelihood of scenarios. It to conversate what they call managed risk in a consensus weighted skylark of an 'investment'. The 'you gotta be crazy' quotient somehow or someway clicks across the 'I once was blind but now i see' line on the Figgerdair and it's a whole new world of stations.] about VCSY but he followed us there and insisted the webmaster get rid of the site. We went private as a forum after that, got socialized with our stufy habits and background and now that's 100 ants from a mound that were just recently kicked out right after the lawsuit against .Net by VCSY. I guess being a .Net developer, the webmaster didn't want to see what was going to hit.

So we get shoveled out to other venues like this one and Number 2.

And now we burrow even deeper because we gain a more widely spread coverage with an already deepened social structure content and efficient with messages laid down by a scent trail - some may pick it up some may not but it guides you to the riches that will guranatee the next generation of eggs. 

And to give you a sense of history and prospective, I offer you this trail sign from a little outpost on the edge of reality called ... the highlight zone.

Color me Curious 

Not the cat, stupid, this:

http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=1069916 better known as: 

WARNING: Speed Bump... Maintain Truth 

311

Emily is a perfect fit

Portuno_Diamo

Mar 7 11:47P

Then tell us we haven't been talking about all this 'new technology' stuff like web services, XML and extensible dynamic languages and framworks since the dotcom days. Where the hell has Microsoft and the information technology industry BEEN for all these years? Have they been wandering in the green fields of illgotten money while we property owners have had to water our lawns with our tears, sweat and, dare I say, wringing out the bedsheets after a long desperate night. Woe is me, woe is ... VIOLA! Gimme a beer! Woe is me.

So if your engine and tranny fall out from under yer ride , it ain't my fault you drive through this here residential neighborhood so fast.

You should stay a little longer and read a bit. You certainly will be doing that later trying to figger out where you missed your chance..

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:26 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 2:34 PM EDT

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Mood:  caffeinated

MAMA! Jilly said I can't sit in the back seat because I stole her peanut butter and jilly sandmich.

Jilly let Sara. Sara stick your tongue back in. Let Sara sit back there with you or y'all take turns.

click

Something to twiddle your unthinkables... dun dun duhhnnnn du duhhnnnnnnnnnnn ... In this episode of Canoles in the Dessert, Field Marshalk Rummel finds himself in a pickle as the Italian troops defect enmasse'...

'Vait! Du haben nicht das osterizergestoffen mit dem toasterputzen fur das consolink prischevershitinkenmakken mit snoopeas!'.

Ya'll turn that down. I can't hear Connie Francis up here.

Yes ma'am. 

'Commandant Plink! Der Panzers aust mit dem proopsbegorken aber nicht so das pinklesmakenschitnken!'

'Gut Gott das plinkenschitinen ist das muggermaken von der plaschtiknederber!' 

'Aul ist los alt ist los mitten dem ctrl under del vershtocken plumetingen.' 

dun dun duuuunnnnnnnnnn... dun duhhnnnnnnn

Don't color on that.

Oh yeah? I can color it if I want to because it... is...... mine and mama said so. Nyah.

click 

Come with us now to yester year when men had fuzzies and women kept tarantulas for pets. In this episode of 'Whipping Post' we join Madam Bruteskink and her slave Herr Plaken Shpiken as they endure grueling interrogation following the death of Claude N. Stanken. 

TURN IT DOWN OR SO HELP ME I'LL STOP THIS CAR RIGHT NOW! Y'all are making me miss Patsy Cline.

Yes ma'am. 

BEGIN THE BEGUINE POST 

By: ajax203
17 May 2006, 04:42 PM EDT
Msg. 159136 of 184813 aka http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=159136

Some Microsoft XML background:

Microsoft used this concept called Silkroute to build relational data in flat files into SQL/ML:
http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/rd/39135020%2C389137%2C1%2C0.25%2CDownload/http://coblitz.codeen.org:3125/citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/18742/http:zSzzSzwww.cs.washington.eduzSzhomeszSzsuciuzSzfileszSz_F1523759225.pdf/fernndez99silkroute.pdf
Summary:
We describe a general framework for mapping relational databases to XML views, to be used in data exchange.

We describe a new query language, RXL, for mapping relational sources to XML views.

We describe a sound and complete query composition algorithm that, when given an RXL query and an XML-QL query, generates a new RXL query equivalent to their composition.

We describe a technique by which most of the work in an RXL query can be shipped to the underlying database engine.

MSFT got a patent on the SilkRoute method in 2003. Does anybody from PH (me - PH doesn't exist anymore. From July 6, 2003 http://www.programmersheaven.com/c/authorpage.asp?AuthorID=118252 ) have the link please? This was the patent used to challenge the VCSY Emily XML Enabler Agent. The XML Enabler Agent demonstrated the ability to do transformations in BOTH directions where SilkRoute only did one direction.

The VCSY/Emily XML Enabler Agent received an allowance from the Patent Office March 29, 2006 saying the XML Enabler Agent patent is granted. http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=96371

Just a week before that Microsoft announced Vista would be delyaed.

More than likely SilkRoute was something they were using starting around 2000 and probably building into their software development. Just funny I think maybe irony that VCSY announced the XMLAgent two weeks before Microsoft announced Hailstorm in 2001. And here it is 5 years later and Microsoft is takign a swan dive into the technology toilet again and the XMLAgent is going to be granted in a few more weeks.

Some Vista background:

WinFS is a way to make organize and manage relationships in files the way you would make records in a database. I think WinFS probably had the SilkRoute stuff in it. Why would they not? They had to move data around from one form to another and or to XML and I dont think they had many other patents for that sort of thing. Anybody else?

Microsoft axed WinFS out of Longhorn (Vista) in 2004 - this is a writeup from January 2004 (when WinFS was a go) updated in August 2004 to show when WinFS was pulled.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/01/WinFS/

Now theyre a go again. Theyre looking for people.
http://blogs.msdn.com/WinFS/default.aspx
"Hopefully by now, most of you have already seen some of the very cool WinFS demos...Microsoft recently made a decision to productize some of these ideas into a new application"

And there is probably more to the story than anybody knows why Vista and a bunch of other things happened and why Lukovsky and others headed for the hills. Read for yourself and decide. I know what I think.
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1820607,00.asp
Wednesday, May 25, 2005
The 'Dirty Little Secret' About Longhorn
By Mary Jo Foley

Contrary to what many believe, Longhorn won't be built on top of the .Net Framework, we hear. But that might not be a bad thing.

Developers say there's a dirty little secret about Longhorn that few Softies are discussing publicly: Longhorn won't be based on the .Net Framework.

We're still expecting that the .Net Framework will ship with Longhorn ? on the CD and/or "in the box" in some way. But the .Net Framework won't be at Longhorn's core, we hear.

Will Microsoft ever go public on this shift? Or are the Redmondians hoping this is just more insider baseball that will end up relegated to the "ancient history" files? One thing we know is this: Developers are talking. So, what's your two cents on how Longhorn's shaping up?



http://www.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=20972&messageID=400752&start=-1
05/13/06
Anything in the shell related to .NET was ripped out
Anything that was based on .NET as an end-user feature was ripped out, for one. Lots of snazzy contact and shell features using Avalon and such. It was pretty and fun, but you can't go and have your shell based on .NET at this point. Maybe with CLR 3.0.

Lots of good people moved on after that decision.

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THE BEGUINE DON'T END BUT THE BEGIN DO: END POST 

[Let's move on, shall we?]

CADILLAC!!!

I got that one.

No you didn't, you were pointing at the Buick.

Did so.

Did not. 

Mama Darlene's getting car sick.

(its going to be a long trip to visit grandpa) 

... waging war on a daily basis...

... walk in through this lovely foyer into the pastel sunken living room. Bob calls it the tripinsa... Oh my! What a bold statement THAT was ha ha ha.

... defeated Nazism and Fascism for all time. Or did it?...

... necking with Junior, her one true love in the drive in. They embraced each other tenderly. 'Oh Junior. I want to have your baby, sugar. What's so hard to understand about that?' 'But Wanda Lynn, I ain't ready to settle down. I learnt me how to cipher. And they says a good education will take you far. I got airplanes to fly and fish to catch and scalps to take.' 'But Junior sweety you can do that... just stay closer to home, that's all ... and I can make us a real home with a weedeater and a crockpot and a tv and a bed. You remember what the bed is for, don't you junior? It's for making...

Jilly!

Yes ma'am. Darlene wanted to watch it.

...click 

Darlene has her daddy's helmet on her head. How can she be watching anything?

She said she got used to it being so dark.

Mama? Is that a police man?

What? 

... and in Zooperior Court of the State of Fuzzy Nuglets: 

AOL-Time Warner and Chinadotcom (CDC) parted ways beginning in earnest in late July:

Negotiations between chinadotcom and AOL July 18, 2003 09:33:00 AM ET
HONG KONG, July 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- chinadotcom corporation (Nasdaq: CHINA; website: www.corp.china.com) announced today that chinadotcom and America Online, Inc. ("AOL") are seeking to negotiate the resolution of all outstanding claims that chinadotcom has against AOL and related parties, as well as the disposition of AOL's existing holding of 6,795,200 shares of chinadotcom. In addition, AOL attempted to exercise a portion of its warrant to acquire additional shares in chinadotcom. The current negotiations also encompass the attempted exercise of a portion of AOL's warrant. There can be no assurance that any agreement will be reached with respect to any of these matters, and even if an agreement is reached, there can be no assurance of the effect of such agreement on chinadotcom or its stock price.

And a scant 10 days later (things happen so FAST these days):
Chinadotcom, AOL reach settlement Reuters, 07.28.03, 9:34 AM ET
CHICAGO, July 28 (Reuters) - Chinadotcom Corp. (nasdaq: CHINA - news - people) said on Monday it has resolved claims it has against America Online, the Internet division of AOL Time Warner Inc. Inc. (nyse: CHINA - news - people)

Under the settlement terms, AOL would be able to sell 6.795 million of Chinadotcom shares. AOL's two warrants to buy more Chinadotcom shares would be canceled.
chinadotcom Shareholding Disposal by AOL Completed
September 25, 2003
HONG KONG September 25, 2003 chinadotcom corporation (NASDAQ: CHINA; website: www.corp.china.com) announced today that based upon SEC filings, America Online, Inc. ("AOL") has disposed of its entire holding of 6,795,200 chinadotcom shares as of September 11, 2003.

For all news items see:
http://www.corp.china.com/newsroom/newsroom.html
Chinadotcom expressed gladness to be free of the AOL-Time Warner relationship which tied them to the pursuit of entertainment bent portal work in favor of the pursuit of manufacturing and mobile software efforts:

http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/25/technology/aol_china.reut/
"We're pleased to have an overhang on our stock removed and finality reached on this issue, and look forward to pursuing our software strategy focused on two of the fastest growing sectors in China -- export manufacturing and mobile applications," Chinadotcom Chief Financial Officer Daniel Widdicombe said in a statement.
"Barry Diller Is Focused"
http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/805251
Barry Diller and AOL-Time Warner strategies
 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:48 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:54 PM EDT

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Mood:  spacey

But mainly watching Microsoft not supply their developer base year after year while the XML Web Services future extends out of reach for them. I was counting on doing a lot of stuff on Apple but it kind of looks like Apple has resolved their 'virtualization' problems early this year. Huzzah.  A ray of light and a Ray of darkness. We shall see how dark it do get.

http://vcsy.blogspot.com/2007/05/finally-2008.
Wednesday, May 9, 2007 Finally... unstructured support... 2008????

http://slashdot.org/~rastamafoo
Current favowrit: Rasta faces the slashdotties down using the RR² Method... or else they're all quietly sneaking up behind me. 

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_V/threadview?m=mm&bn=33693&tid=74&mid=74&tof=1&rt=2&frt=1&off=1
VCSY Intellectual Property Track 

http://vcsy.blogspot.com/2007/04/reply-to-challenges-to-siteflash-patent.html 

http://vcsy.blogspot.com/2007/04/well-be-talking-about-agent-patent.html

http://vcsy.blogspot.com/2007/05/ibm-ceo-palmisano-client-server.html

On AJAX http://www.fiftyfoureleven.com/resources/programming/xmlhttprequest 
By: ajax203  (me - what can I say? I like my writing. I crack me up and I edify meself.) CIRCA May 2006 http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=159997
About XMLhttpRequest (aka The Microsoft Way) and why not.

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=159995
Compare what Sun was saying then with what Sun is saying now. Big change for such a little period of time, isn't it? At least Sun got theirs out in the fresh air before MSFT. Maybe MSFT was letting Sun play with it all along.

I dare say, old bean. It appears you have a crinkled winky! Edgar, come look at this individual's 'assets', as it were.
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=159746

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 10:23 PM EDT

Updated: Thursday, 10 May 2007 11:52 AM EDT

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Mood:  accident prone

No Fair! It's not my fault! Honest!

By: DC-Steve
09 May 2007, 11:05 AM EDT
Msg. 184585 of 184612

Wow! 40 posts by fastbob between 1 a.m. and 2:45 a.m. RST (Raging Bull Standard Time).

If I didn't know better it would appear that fastbob was in a FRANTIC PANIC to bury yesterday evening's posts under that rapid fire 40 post dump. [In New Orleans the garbage trucks go through the streets at night so you don't have to smell what the winos left for you to walk through on your way to work] You know, I mean those posts from yesterday in which he repeatedly made fantastic claims he couldn't back up and he dodged relevant questions he couldn't answer. [Pardon mon sewer but the man he make the reasonable assumptions based on an intellectually honest read of the information at hand derived from doing what all 'investors' should do and that's due diligence using sources with no boundary but the law.]

At the risking of making fastbob's hard work burning the midnight oil all for naught, let's recap some of bob's assertions of fact that he hasn't been able to support and the questions he can't bring himself to answer: [Yea. DC only works during the day. I was quite surprised to see him chime in after hours of business on May 3 when he began defending Microsoft even though no-one knew Microsoft needed defending. The anticipatory skills a good poster needs to be successful in this business is amazing.]

1) Bob says he knows that MSFT intentionally infringed on VCSY patents [based on a read of the .Net system capabilities from 2000 to present and the lack of advancement in MSFT regarding proper XML theory in spite of the FACT Microsoft is getting behinder and behinder every day they can not answer their competition and critics. Perhaps this individual should offer his skills on the MSFT board at Raging Bull.], and that MSFT and VCSY also know that any judge or jury will definitely rule that way, and that MSFT has therefore already decided to pay VCSY billions of dollars. [Microsoft is facing a market running away with XML based web services marketshare while their own XML technology remains under 'wraps'. Like wrapping an elephant with ace bandages. It can be done, but the result looks like you've mummified a house. A house with no entrance or exit and it's shaped like an elephant. It IS and elephant? Why the hell would anybody want to wrap up an elephant? Did somebody outlaw the circus? PETA? Was it PETA? Them bastids shut my farm down. Happy Acres had the most contented little critters this side of Kentucky. Well, there is that part of the Ozarks, but I didn't get dibs on exclusive, mind ye.] Bob knows [I would say it's around a 95% certainty based on the day to day unravelings in the industry {you have to be able and willing to take in a number of sources beyond what is said on a message board – otherwise you're being lead by the nose by one side or the other. Often it's both. In this instance you have a large number of educated longs who've been at this for years and know the score. Ask yourself how many companies could afford this many pumpers for this one stock for this many years and the price is WHAT?} – all we need is one PR] that they all know that [yup], and Bob also knows that MSFT and VCSY are currently in talks only to determine exactly how many billions will be paid by MSFT to VCSY and how the payments will be split between liscening and royalties. [If they're not, Microsoft will lose their business by rapid onset of persona non thoughta].

Fastbob has made this assertion several times (at least) [I think it's up to 46 so far] , but he has never replied when asked to explain how he knows this [because he would have to explain why drool forms on somebody's lower lip and science hasn't come up with an answer yet]. He has never provided any circumstantial evidence [the 46 reasons are only the stuff that's known for a 95%+ certainty. The 90%+ stuff has to go through the treefort shredder to see if it can be pieced together with the higher resolution stuff] let alone anything close to the proof he claims is available for anyone to see [ha. This guy is talking about 'seeing']. He just keeps saying the proof is in the public record and anyone who fails to acknowledge this is being dishonest [one thing to note about DC is he would make a good lawyer for hisself. He's no foo. He's smart and he knows what subjects he has to cover to stay in bounds]. But he can't identity where in the public record this proof remains hidden in plain sight. [like showing a shower to a pig]

2) Bob says that siteflash and the patent in question are already being marketed and sold by VCSY. When Tepe said they aren't and backed it up by noting that VCSY's only revenue producing product or service does not use siteflash [which tepe is willing to demonstrate with a URL stating that, right? EmPath is 'with other VCSY technologies' little darling so spit out that bug and drink your milk.] , Bob was unable to reply to Tepe's post with anything more specific than what amounts to the grade school retort: "you're wrong and I'm right, so there!" [nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah] Fastbob, mmbuster, beach and anyone else making this claim can't seem to offer any evidence that siteflash or anything related to the patent has ever been successfully marketed by VCSY [please read this: http://www.tribstar.com/local/local_story_127235015.html and then read past VCSY indications as relating to ResponseFlash and draw your own conclusions as to why Sun {maker of mission-critical workstations – think of obese clients each serving as a server for others. Imagine a response network impenetrable (no central servers to be able to target) anyway, read the SiteFlash patent and then read what Sun started by building the 'server farm in a shipping container' and every shipload of rifd tagged objects gets it's own special treatment via continuous audit unseen by human eyes right in front of everybody.}]. They claim it has, but refuse to offer any proof. [The proof is in the pudding – dont' you love it when I'm succinct? Don't get used to it.] VCSY claims to be marketing siteflash and responseflash and they name one single installation of RF [In Marion County Indiana... home of the Terre Haute military base and the center for the 8 day emergency preparedness drill that has been stepping piecewise through major American local government centers like the preparedness drill last year in Jefferson Parish... where VCSY product are known to be fact being employed.] , but the latest 10K filing says their majority owned subsidiary that markets SF and RF has never made any material revenue (and had no assets) [and the write fails to look any further and in fact, refuses to consider any of the information offered. Just like popjason. Just like tepe.]. So it would seem Tepe is correct about VCSY being unable to market anything related to the patent [according to the blind squirrel] so far while Fastbob and the others are wrong, but the faithful longs just keep repeating this apparently false claim regardless of the known facts. [because we truly know the facts]

[NOTE: longs could quibble that VCSY announced that one and only sale and pending installation of ResponseFlash [in Indianapolis, Indiana. Gee. I wonder why Sun calls their system Indiana? Would it not be in Sun's character to mold their bussiness in a remake to fit the original place Sun occupied? As a high-performance workstation for academic, scientific and military tasking. Hey treeforters? I know it's always like we're stuttering the same stuff like porky pig but: Remember NOW? From Berkeley and from the Alameda industrial park? The Network Of Workstations concept? See it again? Anybody? This is what JAVA was originally designed to do back on 95... for smartcards. Now imagine all that cargo read but not seen and a system powerful enough to be able to figger out what cargo is hiding amongst the lot without proper identification... out in the middle of the ocean... from ocean to ocean. Who needs to monitor a port when you can monitor every damn thing that lives in that port?... stupid. ]. But that amounts to arguing a very weak technicality since the sale was announced more than five years ago [there's that five year coincidence again. Damn. And DC doesn't see it. Or doesn't want to see it because it's the end of his career in black and white. Maybe he can move to color? Now THIS SUMMER ON NBC! DC and the Dinkalinks!], VCSY didn't identify the revenue to my knowledge (please correct me if they did), and they haven't announced another sale or installation since [that's right. Marion County is apparently where the pudding gets cooked – Indian must be trying to brand the state as THE emergency response center. HA Imagine a concept like that? A whole state being able to brand itself using the internet and their owned capabilities directly integrated and interpreted (this is where expressions become assertions) by expert consumers and usrs.]. If that's the only marketing "success" VCSY has had with Siteflash related tech, then for all practical purposes Tepe is right while 

Fastbob and the others are blowing smoke. [and if not, VCSY is probably the hottest stock to come around in decades]]

3) When asked to reconcile (1) the ACTUAL FACT that VCSY's price hasn't rocketed up and MSFT's price also hasn't been affected by the patent litigation [meaning what? That there are people willing to risk their careers in a brand new technology where they have been installed at the basement to build the bottom floor? That there are people who should be willing to risk jail time (I guess some people think everybody thinks as they do) by revealing information or trying to profit on such information. DC and his folks are woefully behind the times in undderstanding the monitoring capabilities afforded any sort of electronic comm. They think it's still yesterday when today a group using the new socializing technologies available to others besides Microsoft and their developers LOL ... no leaks, Marvin. Nobody even knows what a earth blowerupper looks like.]with (2) his own ASSERTION OF FACT that MSFT, VCSY, and dozens of retail investors already know that VCSY will definitely get billions from the litigation, fastbob declined to reply. [Amazon looks like a good start. Because, if Amazon is using IBM technology, they will need VCSY technology to put the activitities described by IBM's patents into use effectively.] He can't seem to explain how VCSY's inevitable huge victory has escaped the notice of all the Wall Street and tech industry analysts who are paid millions of dollars to, among other things, spot big developments on the horizon such as the likely impact of pending litigation. [because wallstreet listens to all those people who sit on a message board pounded one failure after another into the ground. They forget one out of a million gophers turns our to be a bullet.]

Fastbob knows the outcome with certainty. So do portuno [yup I can speak for myself], beach, mm-buster and who knows how many other IP litigation experts [HA yeah who knows?] who happen to be members of the VCSY investment cult [there are only around 400 people showing up to read this crap at my house. I don't know how many at RB. We had only 100 at Pheaven and that got too uncomfortable for the .NetNest – who knows who reads this but it's an awful small group for such a large concept.]. MSFT corporate management, VCSY corporate management and their respective legal teams also know the outcome has already been determined and that VCSY will get billions. [Is this where the poster tells the truth and hopes it zings by so fast you don't get it but he knows he has to inform everybody lawfully – especially since Microsoft readers will be taking his words into consideration. You think the smart cats are going to waste their time reading my bilge? Not on your life unless they are a rarity among that crowd and have a sense of humor.]

But somehow the most brilliant, best informed and highly motivated technology investment professionals from Wall Street to Silicon Valley to London to Zurich to Tokyo to Paris and all points in between, above and below haven't been able to figure out what is so obvious to Fastbob and pals [Again the truth. And the readers believe DC because e's telling them the truth. They won't see what I am saying as truth because I've been phished and portrayed as a feckless, bumbling demento.]. The litigation is public. Surely many pros took note of it as they typically would in their daily routines [one woul dthink but the laughing stopped on the slashdot board when I posted details beyond what the essential moron woul dassume.]. But none of them have yet grasped even the potential significance of the litigation let alone that the final outcome is already a fait accompli. [I'm glad DC will be able to stand there flat footed and tell the judge eh told the truth everywhere while working on this account.]

That's fastbob's story about the preordained, multi-billion dollar success of VCSY's litigation. He just can't fill in any of the details for his central plot. [Because RR2 is using public reacords. I wonder what DC coul dtell us?] I guess it's a good thing that fastbob isn't trying to make a living as a novelist and restricts his forays in to realms of fictional mystery to stock message boards [The fictional mystery will be 'where did DC move to after the big blow and what name is he posting today?].

P.S. To you investors out there who want me to tell me yet again to "can it" because you're sick and tired of me attacking VCSY like this, read this post again before you post that inane crap again. You will find no negative comments [Nope.] whatsoever nor even any vague suggestions about VCSY [Nope.], its chances of winning the patent lottery [Nope.], or its future business prospects[Nope.]. If you do, then just like fastbob, you've got a little problem with distinguishing between fastbob and VCSY. And probably between VCSY and yourself, too. [So what's the point and why did you write this?]

It may also be useful to remind yourself as often as necessary that questioning unsupportable or just typically debatable assertions made by VCSY supporters is NOT an attack on VCSY [OK]. It's not even an attack on the supportive poster unless you consider it a personal attack to ask someone to back up their assertions of fact or their speculative comments with some evidence and rationale [OK].

Also try to remember that when some of us state the future is almost always uncertain and no one on this board knows for sure how the litigation will play out or how successful VCSY may ultimately be, that is NOT an attack on VCSY. It's just common sense. [Yada yada yada get to your point or is all THIS your point that you didn't do anything wrong? Trying to help out a sick friend? Is your sick friend in the newspaper business? Hvave you even read the papers yet? Including the patents in question?]

I don't really understand it [We don't understand what you're doing here either. Must be a day off. Holiday? Bar mitz? Ritz crackers?], but these very obvious observations about what constitutes an attack on VCSY aren't obvious at all to quite a few participants on this board [That should tell the new reader all they should want to know]. I don't think it's because these folks are FRANTIC or PANICKED. I suspect it's just because some folks have been hearing portuno and fastbob sell them on the certainty of VCSY's success for so long - and sell them on the certain wealth in store for VCSY investors and the certainly evil nature of anyone who questions their alleged certainties - that a few of them now instinctively react as if those obviously arguable conclusions posted daily by Fastbob are actually proven facts. [I leave the reader to determine the validity of the following claims: http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=184572 ]

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I'm going to just leave this one in the oven to let it simmer in its own delicious juices. Then we'll do some basting.

By: DC-Steve
09 May 2007, 02:22 PM EDT
Msg. 184608 of 184656
(This msg. is a reply to 184591 by surferdude1959.)

Surfer, here's a very direct version for you:

RapidRob and others here are literally our of their minds at least when their minds are focused on VCSY. Either that or they're obnoxious fraudsters. E.g., in one post RapidRob says VCSY has already won, MSFT has already decided to pay, and the only question he can't answer is how many billions MSFT will pay. In the next breath he says he has to take on the "bashers" in order to "protect my investment" from the mercenary evil doers who were sent to destroy it by MSFT or someone else. Is that crazy or what? If the game is over and his team has won, why does he feel compelled to take on the "bashers" and what could he possibly need to protect VCSY from? If MSFT has already acknowledged it has to pay, why would they be sending bashers to post on this board? (Why would they do that in ANY imaginable scenario) The dude can't see the self-contradictions and crazy illogic in his own posts made during the same session on this board. Direct enough?

Here's another direct version:

RapidRob, beach, mmbuster are full of crap on a daily basis. They constantly lie, with conscious intent or not, about what they know and don't know and what this purported knowledge confirms about VCSY's future success. And they constantly make ugly accusations about others that they have no rational reason to believe let alone state in public. In short, their obsession with VCSY has turned them in to repulsive little shmucks if they weren't that way to begin with.


But that direct version might come off as unsupported assertions and accusations from me. So here's the short-ish version if you want a more cogent explanation:

Many of the self-described strong long investors who post on this board habitually misrepresent what is factual and what is speculative about issues of great importance to current and potential VCSY investors (e.g., MSFT has already decided it will pay VCSY billions and VCSY's technology will necessarily make it a huge player in the industry for years to come). These misrepresentations, repeated many times each day, can only serve to deceive the readers of this board. While it's understandable that folks sometimes get caught up in the moment and misrepresent the speculative as being factual, these posters continue to post these misrepresentations every day even after the fallacious essence of their assertions has been proven to them repeatedly. That, in effect, limits the explanations for their behavior in this context to only two likely possibilities: (1) they are willful liars consciously trying to deceive the readers of this board; or (2) they're so emotionally invested in VCSY that they've deluded themselves in to believing that what they wish will become true in the future is already preordained to become true. They therefore suffer through attacks of acute paranoia and even temporary insanity whenever their delusions are challenged.

I guess a third possibility is that they suffer from more serious forms of mental illness that aren't just triggered by challenges to the religious dogma of the VCSY cult, but there's no point in going down that wildly speculative path based on the information available to us.

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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:26 PM EDT

Updated: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 5:30 PM EDT

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This is a test. This is only a test. If this were the real thing you probably wouldn't know what the C:$$$!#### to do with yourselfs (pluribus).

http://slashdot.org/~rastamafoo 

It's all in how you slice the eye.

It is your author's considered opinion and speculation VCSY technology can be found at the deepest levels of US technology advancement and thus garners the kind of secrecy miscreants and malcontents can only dream of.

That given, we (meaning my accomplices here - all hundred and so of them) have ferreted out what can easily be asembled from public information found easily enough by serach on the internet today and yesterday and all for the past 7+ years.

That search started on ClearStation for me and has migrated here at the Rastama Foozle Home For The Mentally Baked. We go through wads of tinfoil here so don't go getting all uppity and confederated there with your inmagingation.

There ain' tno fool like an old fool and I've earned my place in the pantheon. If I had not said a word about any of this way back when my life would be peaceful and uncared about.

As it is I have spouted one two many blurbs off the top of the model assembled in my head and come dangerous close to disclosing things that don't exist but it would be damn cool if they did and the architecture is all here in a panorama for my head and I just ... talk too much... blab, you know... and then the mikerwaves start aiming for my peculia elongate and biffo bango I get the minder's dangles and I start thinking I can sing like Barbra... and then there's the pink chiffon thing and the Gingham exeterra exeterra exeterra and I say...

PICK BETTER FREAKING CODE WORDS YOU NITWITS! C8793yTThY is about as secure as a project directive can be, no?

DAMN.

It's like I told Mary Jo, I know I make life hard, but, it's the plants that can push up through concrete that make the hardiest stock. The rest is soup.

If I can remember my password for slashdot I'll see if I can goad a few chickens into a wrestling match. This is going to be a all wings all lips pecking no fowls barred mazola party in the center rink.

The winner gets to eat the vanquished. Just add heat and some flour and a little salt and pecker. 

Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:25 PM EDT

Updated: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 4:28 PM EDT

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Essential Essences

DO NOT READ THIS SIGN

Pardon the mess. Wet floor.

I am just putting this here because I don't have any other place to keep them what with the neato formatting and all I don't have to do so just ignore this stuff and your life will be alot more peaceful and serene.

184578 More on MS/Novell deal and I think VCSY will be in
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
2:45 AM EDT

184577 And, one follow up...Wonder if the money ms got fr
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
2:25 AM EDT

184576 Well, maybe one more just for laughs. Microsoft de
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
2:17 AM EDT

184575 And, if anyone wants more information, let me know
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
2:15 AM EDT

184574 the bottom line is that the bashers can post their
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
2:09 AM EDT

184573 not related

184572 FORTY SIX (46) POSITIVE reasons to be glad to own
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:53 AM EDT

184571 Take your time reading the 'time frame' of events
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:50 AM EDT

184570 not related

184569 I've also been told other relationships exist betw
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:47 AM EDT

184568 There also wasn't a press release about VCSY being
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:46 AM EDT

184567 "For the territory of Italy, the Company also
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:45 AM EDT

184566 TrueBaseline Corporation Acquires StatePointPlus(R
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:45 AM EDT

184565 like 'FRANTIC PANIC' in EVERY BASHER posts these
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:44 AM EDT

184564 Also noteworthy in the same 2000 SEC Filing by VCS
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:41 AM EDT

184563 In the VCSY SEC Filing for 2000, Richard Wade ment
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:41 AM EDT

184562 I highly recommend reading the posts by AJAX, may
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:38 AM EDT

184561 How ABOUT NOW Solutions: Teledyne Brown Engineerin
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:37 AM EDT

184560 How about 'Mercedes, Canada'? I think Teledyne (TB
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:36 AM EDT

184559 CanWest and NOW Solutions, and the 'whitepaper' wr
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:36 AM EDT

184558 NOW Solutions and NEW CLIENTS: How one high-tech f
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:35 AM EDT

184557 From Portuno: 14 Feb 2007, 04:35 PM EST
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:33 AM EDT

184556 well, how about this one!(from the PH board)
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:31 AM EDT

184555 SITEFLASH and reason for the patent infringement
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:31 AM EDT

184554 Aluizio Cruz, Inventor of the 'FIBER OPTIC' VCSY P
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:30 AM EDT

184553 THE 'FIBER OPTIC' PATENT: Cruz was the FIRST to th
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:29 AM EDT

184552 VCSY has the new SECURITY SUITE of products but he
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:27 AM EDT

184551 Someone posted the article about the 'Homeland Sec
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:27 AM EDT

184550 Vertical Computer Systems being a 'VENDOR' of the
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:26 AM EDT

184549 ResponseFlash of GIS: ResponseFlash! A 'Motorola'
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:25 AM EDT

184548 Other VCSY subsidiaries: ResponseFlash, GIS, A VCS
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:25 AM EDT

184547 In the VCSY SEC Filing for 2000, Richard Wade ment
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:24 AM EDT

184546 Oh! Pete Ashey is the VP, Development. ABOUT Mr. A
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:24 AM EDT

184545 Nice article and explains how important SaaS will
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:22 AM EDT

184544 Verizon Business touts deal with NOW Solutions
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:22 AM EDT

184543 20 Jan 2007, 06:09 PM EST
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:21 AM EDT

184542 Nice and to the point. Vertical Computer Systems,
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:19 AM EDT

184541 Oh! Don't worry, I WILL find out! Eom
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:18 AM EDT

184540 It's called "truth" but you wouldn't und
tepe
09 May 2007
1:17 AM EDT

184539 *** A possible IBM connection, we wait to find out
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:17 AM EDT

184538 oh! OH! Is that more 'slander'? Hope so! Eom
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:13 AM EDT

184537 Do you understand what 'slander' is? Steve and you
RapidRobert2
09 May 2007
1:12 AM EDT

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Updated: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 5:17 PM EDT

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