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VCSY - A Laughing Place #2
Friday, 27 April 2007
Venting One's Spleen Tastefully
Mood:  smelly
Now Playing: 'Burnin' Down the Love Shack' Lil' Darlin' Darnette & BoBo Bucky Bovine (nasal twang is the thang)
Topic: The Sneaky Runarounds

I go on a mad tear sometimes because there are so many small yet solid indications as we get closer and closer to the deadline for Microsoft to show something for the past five years of atrophy and denial.

BUT this blog will soon get to look like a Daffy Duck comic book with so many things popping up so I've decided to dedicate one post to something that really gets my goat... sheep... whatever.

So it will pop up from time to time and (hopefully - there's a size limit) will hold the items of irritation so we can track the path Microsoft bile makes through our own digestive system. Disgusting thought I know, but it really is that vile to use power, influence and money to buy time and favor... tsk tsk tsk.

Oh, well, the truth will out. It does always. It will also now. 

So if you see this post pop up from time to time you can use it to watch your path from the back seat of the station wagon, as it were.

Tonight's travesty will map Microsoft's statements (just as they've been made with Mary Jo) with various experts and incidencts so we can see where they are headed and where they've always been.

There may be no analysis or opinion from me. Just an information osmosis therapy to feed the little potted plant of anger and righteous indignation. Sorry... I should collect my wits, such as they are, and sit quietly in the corner over here whilst you peruse and amuse and abuse and lose shoes and get blues. I get the feeling 'getting blued' is not going to have the same happy connotation it used to for some of you folks. We're just all going to read carefully and let them tell us where they're going. That way we can be there right with them when they finally arrive. 

It's all good.

April 26th, 2007

No demand for Microsoft Office in the cloud?

Posted by Dan Farber @ 11:07 am Categories: General, Software Infrastructure, Web Technology, Office 2.0, Microsoft

While I was at the SAP Sapphire 2007 conference this week I ran into Jeff Raikes, president of Microsoft's Business Division. He was at the event to promote the extended roadmap of Duet, the collaboration between the two companies that integrates Microsoft Office and SAP business processes.

I asked Raikes about the likelihood of a browser-based Microsoft Office, given the move to cloud-based computing and all the noise around Google Docs and Spreadsheets and the forthcoming presentation component, as well as upstarts like Zoho, ThinkFree and Zimbra. Microsoft has a Microsoft Office Live, but it's a set of service designed for small businesses, not a browser-based productivity application suite.

Raikes said the browser-based application space is extremely important to watch, but there is not a lot of demand now for Microsoft Office in the cloud. He added that cloud/browser-based applications are inadequate in many scenarios, such as for students who need footnotes in a document. "The key point is what are the scenarios, how services can extend the user experience," Raikes said, which is the standard Microsoft line and a wholly legitimate point of view. You want to be able to work seamlessly online and offline as is appropriate for the specific task and setting.  

Clearly, Google's emerging Office and the other cloud-based suites aren't materially affecting Microsoft's bottom line. But, you would think that among the 500 million Microsoft Office users and the rest of the digital universe that a desire, a demand for supply, exists to have a cloud-based Microsoft Works (not even the full blown MS Office, which would choke in some aspects if it were purely cloud-based). Microsoft Outlook has 200 million users, and Outlook Web Access has 100 million users. Zoho has a plug-in for Microsoft Office that lets users work offline with Microsoft Word or Excel and save changes in their cloud-based Zoho applications.

Charles Fitzgerald, general manager of platform strategy at Microsoft, talks about the company having a multi-headed platform strategy–software + services. OK, then where is the head with Microsoft Word and Excel Live, which integrate with the desktop Office and SharePoint?  

I also talked to Microsoft Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie earlier this month about talks about creating scenarios where it makes sense to have browser-based software.

In the docs and spreadsheets realm, I believe there are certain uses of spreadsheets in particular, where the sharing model [enabled by] using it up on a service could be really useful. I think that there are other scenarios where you want it on your laptop. As a company, Microsoft views this as an opportunity — to deliver the aggregate productivity value in all places.  

Microsoft's MIX 07 conference, focused on the consumer Web, takes place this week in Las Vegas, and Ozzie will be giving a major keynote. Perhaps he will have more to say about Microsoft's plan for Office cloud services, but given Raikes' statement that there is no demand, don't count on it.

See also: David Berlind's Google gradually assembling Office secret weapons

 
Well, heck, what am I twitching about? That makes sense to me, don't it make sense to you, Walter? Yessir. That all makes a whole $#!@load of sense. But HEY, I ain't the Intergalactic Manager of Fried Viebelfrut Sales on Beta Centauri (right next to the famous place).. Nope. I'm just a beat up rodeo clown that hasn't got a cellprocessor left in the old clicker. Just a rounded place to keep my ears and a place to rest my hat. I don't even know if my lips move anymore cause they've been in a perpetual pucker for so long I think I got... hey, Walter, what they call that thang where you do it too often with your wrist? Tarpolian? Wet a tarpolian? What the hell you drinking Walter? Hey! Shut that tractor off we's conversatin'. Yeah. Metacarpal tunnel. That's it. Where the information from your fingers get pinched before they gets to the brain and it causes some kind of fierce pain and spasmodics, you know?
 
So I got metacarpull tunneling in my puckerstrings... yep, both barrels. Seized up so tight reading a Mary Jo one night I had to run my face under cold water to keep the swelling down. As I didn't have one of them fancy buddays as you ritzy people do, I was in the predicament of choosing appearance over function just like our bud at the mikerphone is doing. I just ate nothing but ritz cracker crumbs for three, four days and the swelling went down and I could take the bubble wrap out of the shorts. Know what I mean? Chowda.
 
Try riding a bucker with your puckerstring in a knot and your cheeks hotted up wit da redass so bad you want to kiss the Pope's or ANYBODY's ring if they can just get that monkey out of the cleft, as it were.
 
So, as I wuz saying... hell no I ain't upset. I get bucked off ever oncet in a while. But if I catch your girlfriend giving my bull snorts of paprika again, I'm gonna twist your fuzzies so far they'll have to get a airplane ticket just to get back around. OK sweety?.
 
........ 
 
He just ain't getting it, is he? I go and tell him about McAuley working with Adobe and Motorola back in the 90's and here he is freaking out about something that equates to what the XML Enabler Agent does. I wonder when he's going to come around to the Kumbaya ceremony? 
 
Hello. Read the patent "Web-based collaborative data collection system." patent  7,076,521 

Adobe Opensources Flex, Creating a Truly OS Agnostic OS Platform.

Wow, this is huge. Bigger threat than Java eva' waz. They are only opensourcing a portion but this is huge, and it's an acknowledgement I think that Adobe respects the real threat that Silverlight could become over the next 10 years. Robert has some great videos talking to the folks at Adobe's Flex team. By outsourcing, they sure are "Flexing" the format. The official press release is here. 

The definition and evolution of Flex has been influenced by our incredibly talented developer community from day one,” said David Mendels, senior vice president, Enterprise and Developer Business Unit at Adobe. “The decision to open source Flex was a completely natural next step. I am incredibly excited to deeply collaborate with the developer community on Flex, and further fuel its momentum and innovation.”

Ryan Steward has his take here:

As part of the initiative, Adobe will be releasing the source to the following parts:

  • The Flex Compilers (mxmlc, compc, asc) - the command line tools that compile flex code
  • Flex command line debugger
  • View source utilities
  • Automated Testing Framework
  • Flex core component library - this includes Apollo components
  • Build Scripts
  • Web tier compilers
  • Flex-Ajax Bridge - already open source, but moving from MIT license to MPL License
 
'respects the real threat that Silverlight could become over the next 10 years...'
 
Uhhhh 10 years? Now we see how a groomed for breeding pre-Microsofty adopts the 'long term' vision insisted upon by Microsoft executives. Never something soon. Always 'one day'. Never tell what's real. Always give an 'expression'. Fits and fugglements. Figs and fingers.
 
Geez my knees. What a sad state the critical thinking of the developers of this country has assumed.
 
10 years, dude are you really serious? Because I would have used that to pepper up the irony, you know? You say it as though that's how the software business needs to be done.
 
Wow. I lived through a few significant technology disruptions in the old portuno-as-a-meatsack-butt-cut processing cycle and THIS one (disruption) I'm glued to like Mickey Mouse in a cheatoz bag. And BOY does it hurt when you realize you've devoted a whole lot of learning to a subject matter and then have it suddenly reversed or worst: irrelaventitus.
 
You laugh about it, yet, you're marveling at a part of the machine that will increasingly make your labors transparent and pointless in the scheme of things. How many applications does it take to make one really good one? I don't know. But somebody will extend SiteFlash or environments described by the SiteFlash Patent, using XML processing agents or processors that work like the XML Agent Patent says to virtualize, granularize, commoditize, distribute, manage, govern... exeterra exeterra exeterra. Can ya hear them little internet aware satellites singing in the heavens, brethren and sisterns? Holy loo y'all.
 
Brother Analyst. Sister Coder. I'm not here to bus nobody's ballsa wood. I'm here to proselytize and transactionize. I'm here for the public to see and reason. 'Come, let us reason together, saith the Lord. Because if we don't you and Me's got a turrble day of wreckining ahead. One in which you will see what you missed and then have to face what you kissed.' Ya see, it's kind of like The Price is White with pearly ticket booths and rocking chair loungers and no drink holders. Mmmm. Unpleasant. Like sitting through a screening of 'Give Me Back My Name' with what's his name that always hosted that show...
 
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The reason programmers will be in decline to extinction has more to do with the business of programming than the programming art. Your business would rather not have you around, bless your heart. They need you because without you their software won't get built and the way they want it to work, according to what they told you, won't happen. So you're important, cheeze. You're just not wanted.
 
If your CEO could find an easy way for his managers to put the software together the way they know it's supposed to work, beliebe the porto, your can will be out faster than you can dump a recycle receptacle. And speaking of receptacle, your cubicle will make way for admins who can put things together as easily as a word document and automated with any kind of functionality the bosses want. All they have to do is tell the admin how they want it done.
 
Think I'm silly? Think this is bunk? A few days ago you thought Microsoft was on the losing end of the billy goat's troll under the bridge trick. Now you're not so sure. Maybe something will happen in the near future to enlighten and edify.
 
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FUD. We all been there, home. You and me, we gonna team up somewheres and smite the heathen with emerods and the rod of the Lord. We's going to teach them the good book says, "Burn your own house down before the city takes your soul." or something like that. Whatever.
 
Anywho, we got nothing to lose, us VCSY longs, so we play guerillas and chimps. You got chimped and it's the MSFT Media Machine that pumps that bilge into your swimming pool and you know the old saying 'Fish gotta swim. Bird gotta fly. Man gotta drink it or get it in the eye.' If you get it in the eye, that's one thing. If you drink it, they's plenty tooty frooty koolaid to wash that taste of ballsmasa vinegar out.
 
Less than THREE cent a share, home boy! For fitty cent you can have  16.6 shares of the next mikerstoff. Fitty dollas you got 1666.6 shares. No antichrist stuff here (not yet) it's just a bunch of sixes and all. We cool...
 
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Think it over. We got time. Well, I got time. RR2, he got time. Baveman, sirius and morrie and a couple hundred others, they got time. But if you don't know those names... you ain't got time I think. Maybe. Who knows? I'm wrong about everything usually. It's just that when I get right, I gets righteous. 
 
And I sings...
 
Homeboy don't know 'bout a broken heart.
Don't know what it mean to try to crap but fart.
Don't know what it mean to be a body down
waiting for the garbage man to drive the truck around.
 
wooooo woooooooo woo woo wooooo woo woo dooby doo...
 
While the Hunter's Point HomeFolk Choir and Land Holdings Association sings softly in the background... what about it friend? Wanna read a couple patent claims? Chew a few dry posts and down a little razberry pootypop koolaid and it's blissful ignorance of shareprice morass. All you know is night time comes and that's what chaps your...
 
Young lady I said turn that tv off and get your baby brother some malt-o-meal. Mash it up real good in that bowl... not the dog's bowl Jilly... not Bobby Joe. I want you to feed Baby Joe. We's got a wedding to go to and they don't even know if the groom is gonna show. It's likely to be like last time... never seen me a man cry quite like that. Disturbin'.
 
Anyways, mash up the bananas and keep the berries out of the plate. Them seeds mess up his little bm track.
 
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Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:58 AM EDT
Updated: Friday, 27 April 2007 3:08 AM EDT
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Uhhh Yo Teach. Ovuh heya.
Mood:  d'oh
Topic: Off the Wall Speculation

 

Looking at him. 

By: teachrcoach
29 Mar 2007, 12:22 AM EDT
    Msg. 180123 of 180466
Jump to msg. # 
Anyone know what happened to Rastamafoo? After reading many of his posts and posts by many of the other knowledgeable longs like RR, Beach, Arthur,etc., and after doing a little DD myself I decided to buy some shares(not a huge amount as I am a school teacher after all!). Did Rasta get tossed or is he back under another name?


(Voluntary Disclosure: ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:01 AM EDT
Updated: Friday, 27 April 2007 3:52 AM EDT
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Thursday, 26 April 2007
Mammy's little baby loves short'nin' short'nin'...
Mood:  celebratory
Now Playing: 'I Felt It Was You All the Time' Blind man confronts deaf woman... object? Palimony and discovery. (Thriller)
Topic: The Sneaky Runarounds

I don't like cluttering up the place with thingks but rumors are another think altogether. No matter how vociferously the rumored subject denies and refries, the object rumor usually turn out to be true.

Like remember last year when Vista was going to be a rewrite and that was a rumor? And remember when Leopard was going to be a no show and that was a rumor? Yeah. Rumors are cool.

Here's a good one.

 

By: 4sirius2
26 Apr 2007, 10:30 PM EDT
Msg. 183646 of 183647

http://millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1177588342

Hello all. I just interviewed a candidate who currently works
at TD Ameritrade....Here's the scoop.

Ameritrade is going under. TD Waterhouse will more than likely
buy out Ameritrade therefore Ameritrade will ultimately disapper.
She elaborated on the MANY short positions that Ameritrade has
and how the merge with TD Waterhouse saved them for a moment....

--Boaz


And some Ameritrade, NITE news:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-16017193.htm

Ameritrade sold their investment in NITE...

It seemed a bit incestuous if NITE was the MM for Ameritrade,
maybe the largest OTC broker. Are we witnessing the covering of some shorts to offer cover for Ameritrade on the skids? 4 sirius

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

I didn't know Ameritrade was based in Omaha. I wonder if Warren has his pudgies stuck in there somewheres? 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 10:50 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:33 PM EDT
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One more piece of mail and I can build me a bonfire.
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: 'Pop Goes the Weasel' Game of musical chairs degenerates into circle jerk and cluster cluck.
Topic: Integroty

Mary Jo trying hard to catch a cloud.

April 26th, 2007

Microsoft Office in the cloud? Don’t hold your breath

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 1:12 pm

Microsoft watchers and competitors keep waiting for Microsoft to admit that it is going to make Microsoft Office available in the cloud. They just can't believe — even though Microsoft execs continue to say it — that Microsoft isn't going to roll out a Web-based version of Office.

"No demand for Office in the cloud?" my ZDNet blogging colleague Dan Farber wonders. I am not as incredulous. Among the Microsoft business users with whom I've discussed this, there really is not much demand for such an offering. Granted, Microsoft consumers and SOHO customers might feel differently. But I just can't find the enterprise users who are clamoring for hosted Office.

Many pundits are equating Microsoft's reticence to roll out Web-based Word, Excel and PowerPoint as Microsoft conceding the Web-Based Office space to Google, OpenOffice, ThinkFree, etc.

I believe Microsoft is telling the truth. (Shocking!) The company has no plans, at least for the forseeable future, to make Office available as a hosted/cloud offering.

But conceding the Web-based productivity space? No way. Here are a few things to remember:

1. Microsoft hasn't ruled out making available SOME kind of hosted office suite. Last year, Microsoft execs acknowledged that they are considering making Microsoft Works available as a hosted offering for the SMBs who want Web-based productivity apps.

2. Microsoft has told its hosting partners to expect the Redmond software vendor to offer hosted Exchange (and possibly also hosted SharePoint) itself. Microsoft also has been testing with a handful of customers a number of managed services (desktop management, security, compliance and voice) that it plans to provide directly to customers.

3. Office Live is going to continue to evolve to include more and more hosted services. Watch for Microsoft to position its growing Office Live family as hosted document-management/records management/collaboration products. Already today, Live Meeting is basically a hosted conferencing service and "Tahiti" is going to be a slimmed-down version of Live Meeting.

Microsoft has been struggling to explain its Softare + Service message. But the take-away, at least for me, is that no one should expect Microsoft to rush out and host its cash-cow software. What Microsoft will host are the services that supplement Windows and Office.

And then there was this: 

April 26th, 2007

How do BizTalk Services fit into Microsoft’s cloud strategy?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 4:26 pm
 

If you want to understand how Microsoft is differentiating its Software+Services (S+S) strategy differs from Software As a Service (SaaS), look no further Microsoft's recently announced BizTalk Services.

BizTalk Services include:

  • BizTalk Identity Services provide authentication, access control and federated identity based on the WS-Trust specification and Windows CardSpace
  • BizTalk Relay Services facilitate the traversal and bridging of physical networks, enabling high-fidelity interconnection between cooperating systems for cross-organizational messaging behind firewalls 
  • BizTalk ServiceBus Services, or ESB services, are for creating loosely coupled applications
  • BizTalk Workflow Services provide a hosted instance of Windows Workflow Foundation

On April 24, Microsoft moved BizTalk services out of its live.labs.com incubation lab and into the labs.biztalk.net testing world. The first release of BizTalk Services isn't considered a full-fledged beta; it's a Community Technology Preview (CTP) pre-beta release.

In Microsoft's S+S taxonomy, there are three tiers of services. Microsoft Connected Systems Division Director of Product Management Steve Martin explains these three tiers succinctly in this blog posting:

  • Building Block – The raw building block capabilities to enable developers to build interesting services (or composite apps)
  • Attached – Services that feed into the premise software e.g. Exchange Hosted Services (security, anti-spam, archiving), Windows Live Update
  • Finished – Services built for delivery over the internet. e.g. Dynamics CRM Live, Salesforce.com

Martin puts these hosted, "in-the-cloud" BizTalk Services into the "building block" category. They are meant to be a complement to Microsoft's on-premise BizTalk integration server. He explains:

"We see BizTalk Services as a complement to 'traditional' BizTalk Server uses on premise. As you need to coordinate SOA on a broader scale beyond the organization, we see the introduction of hosted services as one way to help support federation of business process, messaging, and identity across boundaries. Over time, we want to ensure that BizTalk Server customers will be able to easily use the cloud services in conjunction with their premise technology."

Expect to see Microsoft announce more "building block" services in the not-too-distant future. Maybe even the long-awaited Microsoft storage in the cloud services will finally make their debut….

Yea... as soon as they can figure out how their going to trump the XML Enabler Agent patent. 

Oh well. They will play this game of chase the tail until the guys in Chicago can pin them down to the floor in Texas court or in the court of public confusion.

I wonder if they will make good on their claim to protect their clients from intellectual property tort?

 

Give me a break. Adhesive (Aubrey McAuley's company before he took his IP/Patent over to Vertical Computer Systems (VCSY)) was practicing the art described in the SiteFlash patent way back in the day... Not last month. I guess it really doesn't matter when you produce your stuff if you're just going to copy somebody else's work. I guess this is a 'good business' decision to try to smother a small company's life work with a line of BS being placed under every 'industry exspert' nose.

What were we saying with geeksqueeker about his concept of 'prior art'? Prior artistry this: 

Adhesive Software Introduces Web-Site Management Tool for E-Business
7/23/1999

 Adhesive Software, Inc., introduced an e-business system designed to quickly deploy and easily manage all aspects of an online business. Adhesive's new Bizflash e-business system is suitable for both"business-to-business" and "business-to-consumer" operations. Bizflash helps manage the entire online selling process, from updating product offerings to capturing initial transaction data to fulfilling orders and following up (including cross promotion). Bizflash also has the unique ability to "syndicate" an e-business to third-party Web sites.  Products, order processes, brand messages -- the entire online business experience -- can be provided to affiliates, marketing partners, distributors and others, either exactly as is or using elements of the affiliate's "look and feel." Bizflash is based on Adhesive's core technology, called WebOS, a Web application server utilizing an object-based management system that permits users to create data, applications and other files that can be added to any Web page. Objects can be text files, graphics, multimedia files, audio, video, database queries, surveys, Java applets, custom C and Perl programs or command line scripts.  Text, video and image files are databased when published and are fully retrievable.
 
This is the work McAuley was doing publicly with WebOS while he developed his work for the patent application in 1999. We also know from past WebOS articles, McAuley's work was known by newspapers (NewsFlash), Motorola and Adobe.
 
We do know Microsoft unsuccessfully fought the SiteFlash patent using FrontPage as a base argument. We know Microsoft is only now making the kind of moves to allow them to work in such a paradigm... Just one question: why have they not shown what they can do before now? Or at least since November 2004?

 

 

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 10:36 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 10:41 PM EDT
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I'm too tired to read it, Sarah. Dear John, we are through. Who's John?
Mood:  accident prone
Now Playing: 'I was at your party but I didn't get the surprise.' Duet: Clammy Whinette & Corel Chinette (real 'through the nose' country)
Topic: Integroty

In case you were wondering what it's all about, I wrote this here after somebody on Raging Bull pulled up geeksqueekers post... his opinion, which, given the Microsoft festoons all over his site, the Microsoft mouse pad and a glossy eight by ten of Bill sans freckles, led many to believe he was a Microsoft apologist.

He says he isn't. He's just warming a seat waiting for somebody in block B to keel over with Scrot's Terror or terminal Miner's Dangle and have to be mummified in neosporem and visqueen for the good of the community. 

Anywho, I felt the pain, as it were, and I wrote the following snippets around part of geekslicker's post and here at this update I would like to ad this for clarity so I get my due credit dammit. 'And I didn't put the bullet in the furnace and stop talking about my mama.'-bc

Reply to Challenges to SiteFlash patent

Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Just in case you folks went out at night without your flashlights. 

To Wit:

Was it my comment about this guy spewing bull*** or was it RR2 calling him a Microsoft shill and spinner?

Well, either way, we hurt him feelings. He's geeking in his rootbeer right about now. Guess designers don't come in contact with contact opinion very often. He should certainly get a thicker skin and I would say buy the 'more knowledge' option package.

April 26 5:06 PM

My commentary on VCSI vs. Microsoft Lawsuit leads to personal attacks.

I am being called names by presumably people with an interest in this VCSI company for posting what I felt was an honest and candid review of their patent against prior art. They better get used to this because it's what's going to happen to patents in the future if the USPTO has its way. I don't mind being called a Microsoft Shill, or other names I won't mention. The point of this blog is to hopefully have a sensible conversation about technology. I love technology, I sit in front of a computer at least 90 percent of the time I am awake unless my fiance is home. :)

About these VCSI folks, I have no problem with you. If your core mission is to provide software to enable business and improve lives, may you live long happy lives and maybe someday I'll write about your company.  I just figured out they own a product called Siteflash. I think that name creates confusion with Adobe's Flash but that's just my own thoughts.

Back to the subject, I think it's a bit funny that people think I'm affiliated with Microsoft. I am not affiliated with Microsoft in any way. Microsoft has never paid me a cent, or given me a thing. I am not afraid to say I love Microsoft products even though it's like the least cool thing to say today in a technology world dominated by Mac wielding and Linux Welding alpha geeks who don't like Microsoft. This isn't to say that I wouldn't join Microsoft should the offer ever rise, I like Microsoft for their contributions to mankind in the form of software. My job was created by someone who left my company to work at Microsoft. I can say I love Microsoft products and at the same time I can write some code in an VIM editor just like the Microsoft hating alpha geeks. 

I call the shots how I see them.  I don't like seeing things like this. (not sure what to make of it though, Dave) I think people under appreciate how much better our lives have become due to software and not just software from Microsoft. People think I am a Microsoftie because I am passionate about technology I think. I think people at Microsoft ARE passionate about technology.

At any rate, about this piece I did on the patent. I am a person with a little bit of patent experience. This patent experience is limited to some inventions that I created and am creating for my company who has a firm writing the patents for the company. They take my inventions and turn them into the gibbly gabbly "hard to understand quickly" patent language. I am no patent attorney and I only spent two hours dissecting this patent and to my non-patent attorney albeit creative geek brain, it seemed like I came up with some prior art. Like I said, perhaps if I read the patent more I would be gifted with the understanding that comes with living with your invention night and day for months until you have given birth to a perfectly (not usually when you are an inventor) crafted machine.

If your patent is valid, then don't attack me, speak in plain English exactly how Microsoft is infringing so that the public can see this evil that Microsoft is imposing on the little company from Texas. By attacking me, you are souring your own image. I am not Microsoft. If you convince me, then I'll say, now there is a company that Microsoft is wronging. I just don't see it. What good is an IDE that creates and IDE that creates and IDE that creates and operating system that creates an operating system. Sorry, programmers will live forever but it will become easier and yet more complex.

I hope you all have a good day. --GeekSpeaker

 

I'm pretty sure we will. Thanks I'm sure.

Heck. The least he coulda done was put our pictures in the post! A URL. SOMETHING. Backup reference for as to whom did the hurting to whom's feelings? Shoe size? Extraction time? PopKorn? 

I suppose he's saying it's me since I talk in gobbeldeegook. I think RR2 buttered the breadstick pretty liberally... but then, I'll take the hit.

'I just don't see it. What good is an IDE that creates and IDE that creates and IDE that creates and operating system that creates an operating system. Sorry, programmers will live forever but it will become easier and yet more complex.'

So from me to you all:

Pardon geekspeaker. You not being much more than a mechanic with a mouse I don't expect you to be able to see the need. That alone disqualifies your view of the SiteFlash patent.

Make it clear? Why the heck should I do that? The stock is under 3 cents. The shot is clear and right on target. The monster can't move or he'll shake up the village. He has to sit tight and let VCSY's lawyers take their shot... in Texas... with an easy to tell story... and vengeance in their hearts (and ours... we add ours to theirs. Part of the contingency contract I think.) And if we find out (which has been) who is the instigator, there won't be enough tar in Texas City to attach the feathers. You taking your buddies place as he sauntered off to Microsoft may be the best thing that ever happened to you. Bumping into VCSY technology could be the next good thing to happen.

Oh, and Programmers? A threatened species.  No lie.

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 5:27 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 6:23 PM EDT
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'The Monster is trying to eat Aunt Emily, Uncle Jim!' 'Quick! Run get my check book, Billy Bob.'
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Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Looks to me, boys and girls, as if the Monster is in the throes of some sort of fitfulness. Indecision, confusion, obfuscation, wandering, waffling, waking, worrying... What the heck is going on in that upside down bucket?

From Microsoft Watch: 

April 26, 2007 12:09 PM

Microsoft's 'Big Bang' Is When?

Joe Wilcox
Joe Wilcox

Last night's release of Windows Server Longhorn Beta 3 is a monumental event for Microsoft, much bigger than the launch of Windows Vista. How big may depend on when Microsoft releases Vista Service Pack 1.

Windows Server is the nucleus of Microsoft's enterprise strategy, around which all other products—even Windows client—revolve. Longhorn's eventual release, which Microsoft claims will be later this year, will likely set off major software upgrades, including Office 2007 and Windows Vista.

 

.... (SEGMENT - see full article at URL)

When isn't When
But there is a wrinkle—uncertainty which Microsoft has created. Back in November, Bob Muglia, Microsoft's senior vice president for server and tools, told eWeek that Windows Server Longhorn and Windows Vista Service Pack 1 would ship "simultaneously." Such a plan would be quite sensible, as, according to Muglia, "it is one source code base" for both products. Since then, Microsoft has backed away from this coordinated release commitment.

Yesterday afternoon, I asked Helene Love Snell, Windows Server product manager, about whether Microsoft still plans to ship Windows Vista SP1 with Longhorn Server. She told me it was too early to give a date. Huh? How can it be too early if Microsoft already gave a date? It's either, yes, the commitment remains or, no, the plan has changed.

Love Snell gracefully backed out of the corner by saying she couldn't speak for Windows Client. I couldn't argue with that position. Later, I chatted with a Microsoft spokesperson for Windows Client.

"It is too early to talk about SP1's delivery, including whether it will be released at the same time as Windows Server codename Longhorn," she said.

Again, I rebutted that it can't be too early if a major Microsoft executive already committed to a time frame. The spokesperson would only say further that there was "no firm date range for SP1."

Whether or not there is a Big Bang of upgrades—or at least when—hinges as much on Vista SP1's release as Longhorn Server. Already, a number of high-profile Microsoft customers, including Intel, have indicated they would hold back major Vista deployments until release of the first service pack.

.... (SEGMENT - see full article at URL)

Muglia's November commitment is consistent with Microsoft's desktop and server development pattern. So the question: Who's not telling the truth? If Windows Longhorn Server releases ahead of Vista SP1, the Big Bang—assuming it's real—would likely be delayed. If SP1's release is uncertain but aligned with Longhorn Server's release to manufacturing, both products could ship later than expected. Either way, there is potential impact on enterprise deployments of multiple Microsoft desktop and server products.

.... (SEGMENT - see full article at URL)

When is When?
Right now, Microsoft is keeping to the story that Longhorn Server will be released by end of year. But "release" in Microsoft parlance means release to manufacturing, which isn't the same as customer availability. However, Microsoft is taking the position that Longhorn Server Beta 3 is ready enough for some customers.

"We have close to 1,000 servers in the world already using [Longhorn Server Beta 3]," Love Snell said. Microsoft also already has licensed Internet Information Server 7, which is part of Longhorn Server, to "about 50 hosters."

The production use of a testing product is a sign of stability and customer interest. Touting product use also could be a distraction tactic, regarding when the software really will be available.

Microsoft's reluctance to keep its Vista SP1 commitment isn't the only thing missing.

"We will announce the official name when we release Beta 3, which is on track for the first half of 2007," Muglia told eWeek last November. He was right about the Beta 3 release, but why not the name?

Late last night, a Microsoft spokesperson told me that the naming announcement is "imminent." Does that mean a few days, weeks or months? Product naming yesterday or very soon would be consistent with Longhorn Server tracking for release as previously stated.

The release date of either or both products is important to Microsoft and its customers. There is a huge opportunity for Microsoft if the Big Bang theory proves to be true. If there is a delay in the offing, Microsoft wouldn't want to say. Businesses testing for Vista deployments might forestall the process.

Then there is the enormous impact on other products. Many IT organizations will choose to take one bitter pill—coordinated Exchange Server 2007, Longhorn Server, Office 2007 and Vista deployments around the same time—rather than many pills over time. Hence, the Big Bang, and all contingent on answering the question "When?"

Related:

 

Now, given what Microsoft was working on as 'Longhorn' et al was scrapped in '2004' I think it behooves us to look at what happened in the barnyard in 2004 and specifically around the time when the SiteFlash patent was issued and that was November 2004. 

To Wit:

Ah the ebullent mood the entire dotNet development community was in when MSFT announced the 2004 rewrite. Given our discussion in the VCSY community, we wonders what they rewrote as it certainly did appear VCSY was not going to survive that year.

Fog Creek Software

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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 

"Never rewrite", applied to APIs

Interesting article. However, I have the impression that it's basically making the same point than the one Joel wrote years ago about "never rewriting your apps from scratch", only applied this time to APIs.

The truly ironic thing is that people have trashed Microsoft during years for being technically inferior, and now that they are actually trying to innovate and come up with something exciting (like them or not, .NET and XAML do sound very interesting from a technical POV), they are going to lose the war and leave the market open to web-based apps with crappy UIs. Truly another example of "Worse Is Better".

PaulJ
Wednesday, June 16, 2004

OK, I admit it -- .NET violated the Never Rewrite From Scratch rule. Microsoft got away with it because they had two things. First, they had the world's best language designer, the man who was responsible for 90% of the productivity gains in software ...

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Our.NetStrategy.html

........

Longhorn is Windows XP but with a new explorer.exe (written primarily in managed code apparently) that makes use of the 3D subsystem, as well as a couple of new services (WinFS, etc) written in managed code. This is not a wholesale rewrite of the operating system, and really is taking the "gloss" of XP and continuing down that road.

Dennis Forbes
Thursday, June 17, 2004

Oh, and ".NET the MS version of Java"? You could even go further and say that .NET is the MS version of the Lisp Machine. Philip Greenspun wrote once "the Lisp Machine was something truly remarkable; it did things in 1978 that, if we are lucky, will be announced by MS as innovations in 2005". Well, guess what, he was off only by one year or so.

PaulJ
Thursday, June 17, 2004

 

MORE at URL

Having been a Lisperator back in the day, I find it very odd they should talk of this 'Lisp Machine' when three years later the central core of MSFT is working on just such a magical machine to do this sort of thing...Still? I thought they had it in the bag. Did the bag have a hole and did the donuts fell out? Or was that the bag with the eggs?

...........

And, then, later that year...

Posted by timothy on Wednesday November 10, @12:03PM
from the we-guarantee-this-avacado-won't-eat-your-baby dept.
bigtallmofo writes "Microsoft announced today that it will indemnify nearly all its customers against claims that their use of Microsoft software infringed on any intellectual property rights. The only exception will be for embedded versions of Windows, since vendors are able to modify the source code. Is Microsoft opening itself to defending thousands of lawsuits against their customers?"

 ............

But, a bit before that could happen: 

This is an interesting exercise yard for those interested hunting and pecking and scratching and eating. This following selection of niblets is from Enterprise System Spectator - Frank Scavo (excellent information blog).

September 2004 Microsoft-Longhorn-Cutbacks-Threaten-Project-green

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:32 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:52 PM EDT
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Oh... I thought you said 'Magic Shell'... damn and I bought ten gross of waffle cones.
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Topic: Microsoft and VCSY

Interesting information regarding what accompanies the recent Longhorn beta release. Looks like Microsoft is going to balls it out. What's the risk when you feel pretty sure you're going to pay what's necessary. All you want now is to get your stuff out on the market to try to grab market share... YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT WITH A BETA RELEASE.

Word came only last month as to whether PowerShell aka Monad would even be in Longhorn. When you look at a list of features in Longhorn, beyond Powershell as a scripting base, there isn't a whole lot of 'there' there.

Ha. Balls to the wall. Shouldn't that be ball to the wall with poor lonley Monad out there?

From VCSY, A Laughing Place, Part 3 

Anonymous said...

long in the tooth this tiger? Does this history relate to the dispute being discussed and if so is it not at the heart of current efforts in the MS development community.

2004--Monad and its "dadddy" -see section 5 of the video --on programmers-- stating that Monad is progressive evolution of .net and how it works with objects.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/theshow/episode.aspx?xml=theshow/en/Episode043/manifest.xml

2005---Microsoft cant decide if monad is in or out of Longhorn---Many want it in but Microsoft eventually says no---a later OS not Longhorn

2005 commentary---prior to it being pulled from Longhorn.

http://www.informit.com/guides/content.asp?g=windowsserver&seqNum=187&rl=1


Monad becomes Microsoft command shell, MSH, and now Powershell

http://www.informit.com/guides/content.asp?g=windowsserver&seqNum=187&rl=1

Gaining popularity--but still not to be in Longhorn---

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/hubs/msh.mspx

This is a big deal and may shake the MS tree by the roots---if Powershell AKA Monad and its .net foundation is founded on, or borrows from, patented property.

Or have I missed the point (here and of the lawsuit) entirely?

Anonymous said...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/management/powershell/faq.mspx

 

 

portuno
said...

Very interesting, invisible man.

The value of a scripting language is you can make very powerful and flexible syntax for dynamic development. With machines doing the development, a scripting language provides a very powerful way to supervise, guide and intervene in the construction/deployment/update cycles.

What makes this kind of thing possible is two layers of abstraction (the first; the machine works autonomously and the second; allows a human regime to access the lower abstractions through higher level syntax and function) mated to the server hardware's installed operating system (should you actually NEED one of those archaic software thingies and we do know they do be do). You do that by providing your big fancy G driven interface (aka Vista or Leopard) with a T interface namely w-o-r-d-s that tell the machine what to do via a command line.

Machines don't need graphics... they need instructions. Text is more flexible, more compact, more direct and thus more powerful than graphics. AND XML is text. Graphics only carry XML tags and various metadata which is the real information interface to the machine. (A graphic is an abstraction of machine commands into a piece of art. The problem is the art's done and you the user don't have much say about what else you might want to do.

With text, the text base may be abstracted (just as with graphical abstraction) from complex to more simple and more powerful. And it may be abstracted up to the highest level which is human dialect and jargon. This is what Emily provides and can be applied to any environment.

Powershell is a text driven regime around the whole (or is there a hole?) of the Longhorn server. Why? Because, as we understand, it the Longhorn server will reside as a little round box in the family closet and will have no interface beyond connection to Vista (and future Microsoft applications) and a necessary set of commands.
Thus... a 'PowerShell' (with what I would bet would be a stripped down version not quite ready for prime time given the sensitivity of enabling proprietary/arbitrary transactioning) allows humans and machines within an XML enabled framework to manage and maneuver the server content and purpose as needed.

I would say Vista will mate through a .Net structure to talk to Powershell to do what magic needs to be done per the Vista user's wishes or per the autonomous scheduling and management features in Vista talking to Powershell.

Just a guess as that would be the most elegantly simple solution. Now... their problem, if we are reading them properly... is that they can mate up Longhorn with Vista over .Net via the family network, but the main question is; how will they interoperate over the internet?

Simple commands and command line syntax are easy transfers for XML over http. Why they wish to do it in brittle dotNet is a good quesion... unless the Framework does what SiteFlash does and facilitates the virtualization of .net structures and communications for XML enablement and transport.

Just a fig. Will others blow the figleaf off the Longhorn server's plans for... how shall I say it?... internet intercourse?

April 26, 2007 10:10 AM

 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 2:29 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:36 PM EDT
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I scratched meself. I know not where. But then I sees me underware. Me frightened eyes they did exclaim "I got to get this to my brain." The brain said 'Wot? You see I'm busy. My headache hurts. My tummy's dizzy.' Me frantic eyes they look around to see where Ol' Ears! could be found. But each time eyes made round the bend, there was that 'nose' post once again. But not a word made it. Eye can't send. He just receives and thus The End.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 12:10 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:12 PM EDT
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As much as you are able please comply with directions for use.
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Worth a read through a Microsoft contract modified February 2007... right around when Microsoft received the cease and desist order from VCSY. 

By: RapidRobert2
26 Apr 2007, 02:49 AM EDT
Msg. 183539 of 183539
(This msg. is a reply to 183493 by RapidRobert2.)

WOW! I was just surfing and looking to see what is up with this 'geekspeaker' shill for microsoft and it struck me...How many hours and bucks did it take the microsoft lawyers to write this and how the heck most people read it, understand it? OH! I'm responding to my post about the 'geekspeaker' and his misleading diatribe so you might want to click above and read it so you know what I am talking about.

It isn't even impressive. What happened to common layman terms? Geeeze, what will the retired jury in EAST TEXAS think of this kind of stuff?

OverDONE, microsoft...and I like the part about copyright infringement near the end. HOW ABOUT PATENT INFRINGEMENT, DO YOU HANDLE THOSE AND SIGN LICENSE AGREEMENTS TO USE THE SOFTWARE OF OTHERS? OR, JUST STEAL IT?

I gotta post this junk that is ON the website of the 'geekspeaker' blogger shill for microsoft...someone should send the link to VCSY and let them know the FIGHT HAS BEGUN BY msft.

RR
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Microsoft Service Agreement Last Updated: February 2007

THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING MICROSOFT! 

MORE at URL

I would also advise a read on the following: 

 

Msg 183493 By: RapidRobert2 25 Apr 2007, 09:01 PM EDT
Did you note the 'legal' at the bottom of geekspeakers website?

Msg 183506 By: RapidRobert2 25 Apr 2007, 09:28 PM EDT
"So, how come the 'geekspeaker' has MICROSOFT ALL OVER HIS WEBSITE and even HAS MSFT ALL OVER THE BOTTOM FOR PROTECTIONS..."

Msg 183520 By: RapidRobert2 25 Apr 2007, 10:20 PM EDT
I find it VERY POSITIVE that the 'great'(lil 'g') Microsoft is putting their 'bloggers' to work to discredit the patent(s) and VCSY. That shows MSFT is one WORRIED lil INFRINGER!

Msg 183538 By: RapidRobert2 26 Apr 2007, 02:30 AM EDT
we've seen some negative comments about how 'backed' up the court is in East Texas where PATENT INFRINGEMENT cases are the place to be FILED by PLAINTIFFS

And chase all that with this little nuglet of wisdom:

By: thecaptaina
25 Apr 2007, 07:59 PM EDT
Msg. 183472 of 183542

it has been nearly a week since the suit news was officially released, but presumably a good number of people knew about it before then.

big investment firms have almost certainly heard about this, and presumably, had some of their own lawyers look over the patent and the suit to see if it would be a good investment. if they thought it had merit, wouldn't they be buying into this stock like crazy right about now? this is my biggest concern at the moment and i would appreciate a legitimate and informative response.

thanks. i??
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FYI So you will be mindful of the stakes and the potentials for advancement for some and catastrophe for others: The audience for this website shows on the tripod view-o-meter as around 300+.

That is a very very small group of educated individuals familiar with the oddities and capabilities of VCSY compared to the thousands who are ignorant of the events. Consider what a large matter a little fire kindleth.

And I am prone to wonder myself as RR2 does in Msg 183541
MAKES A PERSON WONDER WHAT OR HOW FAR MSFT WOULD GO TO 'ATTEMPT' TO DISCREDIT VERTICAL COMPUTER SYSTEMS.


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 4:10 AM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 4:19 AM EDT
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And might I add this from RR from Laughing Place number 3?

 

Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Tough Talk from RapidRobert...

MM NITE: I have advice for you. Buy those shares you are short, get your books in order or risk losing alot of money because just when you think you have control of the price per share...something is going to happen to leave you alone, shuttled in a small room with your CEO, trying to figure out how a small company like VCSY RAN over you and other MM's controlling the stock price instead of executing orders rightly and 'making the market', as you rightfully should.

 

I would suggest reading the rest at the board to get the true impact of this solid advice from RR2. 


Posted by Portuno Diamo at 3:25 AM EDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:26 AM EDT
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